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Nice Pickup Of 1959-P BU "Black Beauty" Jefferson Nickels

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 Posted 10/24/2017  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wildhare to your friends list
John1....I sense a bunch of doubt in your reply. Probably the best way would be to send them in and pay $30.00 plus per coin to have someone say they certainly look like it and subsequently have them valued at $10.00. I am just sharing as they look legitimate to me and I didn't join CC to show counterfeit coins (unless I find a Henning). I am jacked that I found/saw them and just wanted to share.
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 Posted 10/24/2017  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mac1971 to your friends list
Wildhare nice find !
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 Posted 10/25/2017  04:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Wildhare,
Don't get the wrong idea about my comment. I just wanted to let "everyone" know of the possibility. Your coins look great . Could they also be considered "full steps"? I bought a 1962 BB and posted it here. I am not positive I got a good buy. http://goccf.com/t/280254
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 Posted 10/25/2017  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wildhare to your friends list
No problem John1. I checked out your older post and I would have to agree with you on that coin. I also read the other comments on artificially darkening a nickel. I had heard this last year, and wondered if it was true.....so I heated several nickels to 400+ degrees (oven) and then threw them in a snowbank. I suppose you could say that it darkened them, but without exception it turned the nickels red and blue. I have seen some of these artificially toned nickels for sale on ebay. My personal experience with natural toning on nickels is that they turn purple or have a gold hue, or both.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Just be very sure of yourself when collecting darkened or blackened coins.

They can be VERY easily faked with careful heat treatment.
I know.
I have done it myself just for fun with newly minted Australian copper nickel coins, and then put them back into circulation.

You should see the looks on the checkout chick's faces when you present very shiny dark grey, or even shiny jet black coins for payment!

Auto checkouts can't detect them, and they are still perfectly legal tender.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

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They look nice but I heard you can make them yourself pretty easyly. I would like to know the best way to tell a mint BB compared to a "homemade" one.
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I've sent a few genuine B/B to a couple of members , if they care to comment then you'll know a genuine from a homemade .
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 Posted 10/25/2017  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here are my edited image for this subject. I've been waiting for the real deal. When you find them in a OBW BU roll, then you know they are from the mint and not altered. Thanks.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Here are my edited image for this subject. I've been waiting for the real deal.
Well done!


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When you find them in a OBW BU roll, then you know they are from the mint and not altered.
Important enough to repeat.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
When they are found in the wild, I always doubt that it is what happened at the mint that caused the color of the coin.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Well, I've certainly learned something here.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Great pics Coop - very nicely done.
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 Posted 10/25/2017  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list
I'll interject a bit here. From most all KNOWN 100% Black Beauties, They come out of the 1958, 1959 Philly mint coins. Some have showed up for earlier years that may be. Any From other mints and after 1959 are to be suspect as a doctored coin, whether heat, chemical or other methods. It seems there was a problem of "batches" of planchets were annealed improperly, meaning heat strengthening of the alloy caused this result. Copper/nickel alloy reaction? Too much cobalt is another possibility, but all are unknown exactly what is the root cause. It seems Coop has made the case that these now can be thought of as a mint planchet error and considered PSD (pre-strike damage).
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 Posted 10/25/2017  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wildhare to your friends list
Very Impressive presentation Coop. Thank you. And John1, I tried to find 5 steps on the one coin which Coop used for an example image, but I could only get 4. It is a spectacular coin though. Thank you everyone.....
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 Posted 10/26/2017  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I don't want to but would like to know where you got the roll? In your pics it looks like they are in a plastic tube? How did the U.S. mint ship coins in 1959? $50 bags if I remember reading about them right. Maybe someone "made up" that roll which means we do not know it is from a "BU" roll unless it gets graded by one of the three TPG's as MS60 or better.Either way, I really do like the look of it so congrats on your find Wildhare.
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