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How are you able to find that out?
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How are you able to find that out? I have seen enough examples in person or in pics to determine what may have potential value. You can always search ebay SOLD listings for something similar and see the going prices. Heck, I have a pretty good struck-through grease cent on ebay right now w/ Best Offer that's not doing well. I said it may be Struck Through Grease because of the strong EPB below it. It's weak enough to also consider a weak strike or die polishing. I narrowed it down to the most likely explanation from the pics. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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That's a common area to be over polished on LMC's. You'll find that alot if you roll search. |
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Though I've previously read through threads here while researching finds, it was this post and its responses that finally convinced me to register. I recently found a '93(P) LMC with the EXACT same 'missing reverse lettering' as the OP. I figured it had to be an error of some type, but w/o knowledge of the terminology - searching online brought scattershot results. This post cut through the irrelevant/false leads to the answer(s) I sought. The folks here have, in fact, often contributed to my education. I just couldn't allow myself to continue benefiting ananymously. I'm new to numismatics and this forum (and to online community involvement in general). I don't know what I can possibly add by participating. But at least now I can express my gratitude to all who so generously offer their knowledge and expertise. Thank you! |
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 Spendable. Just noticed your screen name. LOL Like it!  Edited by coop
08/10/2018 10:04 pm
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 Charlie! Since my previous responses, I have learned a bit more and coop hit the nail on the head. (no surprise  ) Once you see it more and more often, you realize that it cannot even be Struck Through Grease. There are simply too many very similar examples. This effect is primarily due to a weak enough strike to not fill the letters because Lincoln's coat/shoulder requires too much metal to fill out under that pressure. For the same reason, Monticello's porch, columns and steps are weak more often than not on older Jefferson nickels. The bust on the opposite side requires too much metal over a large area. In fact, many coin types suffer in the central designs because of this. Today's circulating coinage does not have this problem in most cases. That is because the relief has been lowered (made more flat and consequently requiring less of the planchet's metal to fill) to what seems to be a bare minimum in the designs. It makes for more consistent production, but has its drawbacks in the eye appeal area. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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08/11/2018 03:39 am
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Quote:This effect is primarily due to a weak enough strike to not fill the letters because Lincoln's coat/shoulder requires too much metal to fill out under that pressure. For the same reason, Monticello's porch, columns and steps are weak more often than not on older Jefferson nickels. The bust on the opposite side requires too much metal over a large area. In fact, many coin types suffer in the central designs because of this. Awesome answer Spruett! I've just learned something new again.  Errers and Varietys.
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Thanks, E&V. Overlays are good for more than clashes.  Notice that another weak area on LMCs is the lower steps of the Memorial and a bit to the right when viewing the reverse. That nicely corresponds to the temple/cheek of Lincoln and is also a relatively high relief point and covers a large area without a drastic change in relief. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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08/11/2018 03:47 am
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Wanted to point out. Rims and weakness can coexist. Regardless with or without grease involved. Thanks, Doug.
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Quote:Thanks, E&V. Overlays are good for more than clashes. You're very welcome and no problem! And yes, overlays have more than just one purpose. This has been a great thread too! I'm glad someone revived this thread. Sometimes, that needs to happen. Errers and Varietys.
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to the Community, Charlie Ozark! |
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Wanted to point out. Rims and weakness can coexist. Regardless with or without grease involved. Thanks, Doug. That is always something to consider. It is good to keep in mind, though, that rims are "assisted" in the upsetting mill to form the protorim (?). The central designs don't have that advantage. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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