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As a person not knowledgeable about this coins minting, the lack of those two lines high-lighted by madzdad71 would stop me from going any further.  |
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Madzdad71- You'll see big differences between individual coins of this period, as major elements of each die were done by hand such as LIBERTY, date, Half Cent, wreath, fractions, etc. Some wreaths have stems and some don't--all perfectly legitimate and documented. As you're good with details, you'd probably enjoy checking that out.  That's why there are books that document die pairs for each year, and valued according to rarity of pair. I have one for Large Cents only, so I can't ID the die pair here. I agree with Jaobler's sentiments, although some color issues might be the photo. Edited by KurtS
06/08/2008 2:45 pm
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I'm not so concerned about the differences in the design. The coin posted by ShadowCreator is a "small 6, stemless" type and obviously has a different reverse die than the "with stems" variety. The wreath bow and fraction area is an excellent match for the picture in the Red Book for the stemless wreath variety for 1804; I expect the same reverse was used to make some of the 1806-dated coins. Even within the "small 6, stemless" variety I would not be surprised to learn there are multiple additional die pairs that were used. Dies from this period were hand-engraved and differ significantly from one pair to the next. The dot above N in CENT is a centering mark and is present on many US coins from this era, not just on Half Cents. My main concern about ShadowCreator's posted coin relates to the surface quality. Based only on my suspicion about possible corrosion, I would downgrade my value estimate to maybe $300. I would still want a return policy in case I decided it wasn't worth that much upon close examination. Edited by Jaobler
06/08/2008 8:26 pm
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Well, now I don't know really good. The pic in the gallery doesn't have the lines.  |
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Ahhh variety! I hope that it is genuine, and that it is worth good coin! (no pun intended)
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Hrm yep, he has a 7 day return policy. I'll take off a little for the reverse bump and probably be willing to go up to 350-400 tops, but if it's corroded, I'm returning it.
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I was hoping for a lower price, but a few people bid late, and it ended up at 370. It's a keeper if there's no corrosion.
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Good news, got the coin today, and NO CORROSION visible to the naked eye even under close examination. At least AU 55, I'd say AU 58. Pity it's not an MS, though. Should I be looking at it under the magnifying glass?
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Wow...great to hear!  A lot of early coppers have a very dark patina that's either simply due to age or the impurities in the planchets--many turned almost black in circulation. |
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It's also nicer than in the picture. There are patches of original mint luster all over the back. I need to take quality pictures tonight.
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congrats on a nice coin! great to hear that there are still legitimately nice coins being sold on ebay. are you planning on sending it in to a TPG? or are you gonna keep it raw? just curious =) |
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If I do, probably PCGS. I might keep it raw for a few years though. In my album now.
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Very nice! |
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That green stuff near the top left of the wreath is not verdigris, right? its pretty faint
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Posted 06/08/2008 2:39 pm
