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Not Purchased But Found Metal Detecting In The UK

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 Posted 05/02/2018  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lrbguy to your friends list
I don't collect or study Celtic, but I do know a stunning coin when I see one. Congratulations on the find! Your comment about the valuation headache and the notes you gave about rarity and significance, reminded me of a question: when the find is a single coin like this one, how does the Treasure Trove law come into play? Do you surrender the coin to the local coroner, some other authority, or is there a minimum find size before Treasure Trove kicks in? We have nothing in the States to compare with TT, which I consider an enlightened approach to balancing the rights of individuals and the protection of State interest. But I have no idea how it really works on small things day to day.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
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Stunning coin. What is the size and weight and will you be allowed to keep it?
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
That does it. I'm moving to England!

Just a stunning find! One of the best I have ever seen.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
@bonzo, first welcome to CCF. Second, that is quite a splash to make with your very first post. I hope that we see more of your dug coins in future threads!
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 Posted 05/03/2018  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bonzo to your friends list
Thanks for your fantastic comments.
Under our law we are allowed to keep one silver or gold coin providing it's not part of a hoard. Lucky for me it was the only coin found on that field#128515;
The coin tells a story so when I get home from work I will do my best to explain what is going on, please feel free to add anything if you understand these coins.
I have found heaps of hammered as well as Roman coins and will post them for you.
One item I found I took straight to the British Museum London as it can only be described as treasure, it was a gold Saxon fertility pendant, real nice piece.
Chatch up later as I have to go to work #128580;
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 Posted 05/03/2018  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list
Stunning coin!....I grew up in this area of England and always remember seeing people detecting and thinking to myself ' What are they looking for'? Now I know! Excellent find..

Interestingly... Julius Caesar describes Gaul at the time of his conquests (58-51 BC) as divided into three parts, inhabited by the Aquitani in the southwest, the Gauls of the biggest central part, who in their own language were called Celtae, and the Belgae in the north. Each of these three parts was different in terms of customs, laws, and language. He noted that the Belgae, were "the bravest of the three peoples, being farthest removed from the highly developed civilization of the Roman Province, least often visited by merchants with enervating luxuries for sale, and nearest to the Germans across the Rhine, with whom they are continually at war"... Ref Wiki

Congratulation Paul
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 Posted 05/03/2018  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
Although your coin may not qualify as treasure, I hope you will bring it to the attention of your local Finds Liason Officer for voluntary recording under the Portable Antiquities Scheme.
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 Posted 05/03/2018  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HoboNickelCarver to your friends list
Great find! Thanks for sharing.
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 Posted 05/03/2018  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bonzo to your friends list
Of course my local flo will be informed, unfortunately we are waiting for a replacement as our one passed away just before Christmas.
The nearest flo is the British museum London and that's impossible to get there Monday to Friday due to work.
The coin is not going anywhere until it's been seen and registered by flo
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 Posted 05/03/2018  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bonzo to your friends list
The beauty of these old Celtic coins is they tell a story and this one is superb.
If you look you will see a spear against the boar, the spear is not attempting to kill the boar but to guard against it. The Celts believed the boar was evil and destructive to their crops.
So now we are looking at guarding against evil! If you look at the boars feet they are in fact seeds, maybe corn. Below the boar is four suns which represent the four seasons of the year, note the sun rays off the suns changing on each sun. Now look at the boars feet and you will see two lines leading to a set position of the four seasons. So they are telling us at certain times of the year the evil may strike at their crops!
You have four crescent moons at the top of the coin 'look like clouds'.
The celts worshiped the sun gods and the moon gods, well the sun god is on the other side of the coin represented by a horse.
Back to the four crescent moons, each moon has a representative meaning, so the meanings are,
1, Fermininity 2, Woman 3, Groth 4, Creativity
So to sumerise the whole coin story is they are asking the moon gods for help to protect their crops so they can continue to progress and prosper in their lives.
Now this makes me think that this coin is so rare as it could have been minted just as a votive offering to the gods and taken away to be buried around their boundary's on the hill tops 'that's where I found it'.
Just a one hour walk from Danebury #128515;
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 Posted 05/03/2018  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list
Wonderful discovery! Rare to find ancient coins in such a condition...
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 Posted 05/03/2018  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list
Wow! Incredible find - I'm jealous. I've always wondered, are you compensated when your find is taken as treasure?
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 Posted 05/04/2018  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
Truly superb specimen.
And the type of acquisition that will give you a fuzzy feeling for many years.
I only sell coins to satisfy my passion for hunting for "new" ones. Here in N America we need do our "detecting" in junk boxes and on ebay !
I find the ones I can't let go of are the occasional treasure. A $500 coin found (after uncounted hours searching) snatched off ebay for $50 perhaps.
I call them my trophies !
But finding it in the earth itself makes extra fuzzy and warm.
Keep it for life ....... maybe even 'take it with you' !
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 Posted 05/04/2018  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list
There are things to be found in the ground in the US too. Years ago, I was managing a local coinshop in the midwest. One afternoon a woman came into the shop with a coin, explaining that she had found it while digging in her garden. It was an 1877 (!) Indian cent with a beautiful green patina, the sort of patina you would love to see on a Roman sestertius but not necessarily on an Indian cent. Otherwise, it appeared to be a reasonable F to VF. I considered green patina on an Indian cent to be "environmental damage" but it was still an 1877. I paid the woman what I thought was a fair price. Several days later I sold the coin to one of our regular customers at a big discount, $300 or so as I recall. Our customer took the coin home and scrubbed it with toothpaste (a mild abrasive) until all the green was gone. Then he sent the coin in for grading. I don't remember now whether it was PCGS or NGC but believe it or not, that scrubbed Indian cent came back certified VF20! No "details". No body bag. Straight grade. This is an absolutely true story.

I apologize for wandering off-topic but I haven't been reminded of that story in many years. I couldn't resist sharing.
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 Posted 05/04/2018  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list
Just a one hour walk from Danebury? These guys are sooo jealous.

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