You You Guys Believe These Quarters Are Going That Much Or Is This Fake?

I have a love affair with people trying to be smart with what they do with significant values of money. Yes some people want to fight that but they have lost that battle by far, I don't want them to mislead people reading but everyone can do what they want as long as they know all the facts and risks thats all

I have made more money buying raw coins then sending them in to be graded, then most collectors that buy only slabbed coins and waiting
for them to go up in value.

There are fake coins raw and in slabs. The best thing a collector can do is
to learn how to identify the coins they are buying.

This is really fruitless ... I am not here to argue ... I am wondering if that is what
you are really here for.

Incorrect. They do actually exist, but only one graded example exists though. It's a 2003 P LMC that's in MS-70. Look here. Enjoy the reading. I know it's an old article from 2006, but it's still a very good and important article. https://www.PCGS.com/news/PCGS-cert...-strike-cent

Conder101, that's pretty sad actually. What a shame though, as it actually was at one time MS-70. It was one heck of a very beautiful Business Strike coin! I doubt they'll find a perfect Business Strike like that ever again.

Honesty demands I respond truthfully.

When replies come back with devices such as the following: assumption of motive, using baseless superlatives, ad hominem replies, focus on minutiae to redirect thought away from the issue, redirecting focus by making baseless universal statements like "well everyone...," or "that will never happen...," and/or other emotionally based concepts, those replies aid newbies and others readers to have a much more clear view of the reality surrounding the subject.

Also, the greater the number of those non legitimate (to debate) type of responses in a thread, the easier it is for the newbie/learner to find verifiable reality. The many replies of this nature (on this forum and another) sent up red flags for me when I got back into the hobby and started to research this topic.

Teaching is in my genetic code (as is learning).

I did actually know about that one and it being downgraded which is why I had said no MS 70 business strikes exist from PCGS as they currently don't. It is definitely a shame on that one developed issues later on as it was stunning for a while.

It's not out of the question for another some day, but the chances are very small and I would think if anything it might be a dime if another comes out. The US mint needs to pick up it's quality though too

I am glad you mentioned it again. I went back and read it. I had a lot of things on my mind when I was posting here earlier and forgot to click the link.

And I also agree with you both that quality needs to be upped in all areas. I get tired of finding hair other particles in in proof sets!