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Morgan Dollars To Be Graded

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 Posted 09/10/2018  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
The biggest factor for submitting a coin, will be value. Everyone might
have a different standard. For me I would like the Morgan to be valued
at $150 or more, when sent into NGC or PCGS.

I use a less value amount for ANACS.

I like to look at the my extra Morgan dollars, and try to select some that might
grade MS 64 or possibly a higher grade. If better date Morgan's, for example
1894 S, I would submit XF 45 or higher.

I would suggest researching each coin to determine what the possible grade
the coin would receive, and what the value would be.
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 Posted 09/10/2018  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stewillard to your friends list

I'll do the research and get started. It's unlikely I have any great coins but going through each will be a good learning experience. I appreciate the help, thank you.

Bill
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 Posted 09/10/2018  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list
Before you do this, " I plan to carefully remove accumulated grime and select candidates for grading. "......would you post pictures?

As a collector, I would rather see grime than a coin that might be "enhanced", "conserved", or "cleaned". :)

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 Posted 09/10/2018  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list

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A few of my Morgan's, sitting on the side, might be candidates for grading. I plan to carefully remove accumulated grime and select candidates for grading.


I wouldn't recommend it. You don't know what you're doing yet. Chances are, after you 'work' on those coins they will end up in details holders due to your 'work'. I also wouldn't recommend using the 'conservation services' offered by the TPG's. I've seen way too many disasters over the last year.

Coins 'conserved' by tpgs end up in details holders as well. It's best to evaluate on a case by case basis. Post pictures of the coin that you feel needs cleaning and we will do our best to give you objective advice.

PS: Watch for the TPG loyalists to swarm over my criticism of their conservation services.
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09/11/2018 12:23 am
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 Posted 09/11/2018  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I also wouldn't recommend using the 'conservation services' offered by the TPG's. I've seen way too many disasters over the last year.

Coins 'conserved' by tpgs end up in details holders as well. It's best to evaluate on a case by case basis. Post pictures of the coin that you feel needs cleaning and we will do our best to give you objective advice.

PS: Watch for the TPG loyalists to swarm over my criticism of their conservation services.


Has nothing to be with being a "loyalist" and everything to do with actually painting an accurate picture of their services. One TPG yes you can argue is a waste as they short change what they will do for a flat per order fee.

The others do a very good job overall but nothing is perfect. Most of the times when a coin still goes details or looks worse its because the doctoring was removed and exposed what was covered up.

Every now and then a coin gets messed up from the chemicals which is no different than anything else in life. They all do good work, one of them doesn't do enough work though and seems to have a limit of how many they will do per order but none are incompetent and 3 of the four get used a lot.
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 Posted 09/11/2018  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list
Pictures are needed to accurately tell whether these coins are "TPG-worthy." Also, do NOT remove any grime on the coin - those will make the coins "details" problem coins and they probably won't straight grade at a TPG.




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PS: Watch for the TPG loyalists to swarm over my criticism of their conservation services.



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09/11/2018 08:49 am
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 Posted 09/11/2018  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stewillard to your friends list
Thanks for identifying your criterion for submitting a coin for grading.

Regarding cleaning; I certainly do not know the process to thoroughly "conserve" a worthy coin but I merely would like to remove the accumulated loose, surface debris and foreign matter that settled on them during storage. I understand I can safely do this with a soak in pure acetone followed by an acetone rinse and then by carefully patting them dry with an appropriate cloth. Will this harm a coin?

Regarding photos: I can't imaging that the low resolution photos allowed by me to upload to this site would be useful. Correct me if I am wrong, please.

To put these few coins in perspective, they are not remarkable examples. I doubt any would be graded uncirculated or close. At best, there might be a couple key or semi key dates.

Thank you - Bill
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 Posted 09/11/2018  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list

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Regarding cleaning; I certainly do not know the process to thoroughly "conserve" a worthy coin but I merely would like to remove the accumulated loose, surface debris and foreign matter that settled on them during storage. I understand I can safely do this with a soak in pure acetone followed by an acetone rinse and then by carefully patting them dry with an appropriate cloth. Will this harm a coin?


No, it will not harm the coin. Make sure you do not rub the cloth over the surfaces, at most pat them dry.


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Regarding photos: I can't imaging that the low resolution photos allowed by me to upload to this site would be useful. Correct me if I am wrong, please.



Any photos will help.


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To put these few coins in perspective, they are not remarkable examples. I doubt any would be graded uncirculated or close. At best, there might be a couple key or semi key dates.


If they are just common date circulated Morgans I wouldn't submit them for grading IMO.
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 Posted 09/11/2018  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stewillard to your friends list

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If they are just common date circulated Morgans I wouldn't submit them for grading IMO.


No worries and I will post photos of any I consider for grading.

Thanks again -Bill
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 Posted 09/11/2018  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You might at least list the dates and mintmarks, that would be helpful.
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 Posted 09/11/2018  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mavs2583 to your friends list
Sending in a coin for grading is something I'd reserve for a valuable coin to verify authenticity.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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No worries and I will post photos of any I consider for grading.


If you wanted to do it as a learning experience or they have some sentimental value and you want them graded for protection ICG has a special going on where you could get them done for $10 a coin and they offer free conservation where they think it would be helpful
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 Posted 09/12/2018  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stewillard to your friends list

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basebal21 wrote: If you wanted to do it as a learning experience or they have some sentimental value and you want them graded for protection ICG has a special going on where you could get them done for $10 a coin and they offer free conservation where they think it would be helpful


Your suggestion might be the most viable option for me. Quickly looking through the coins, most are well circulated but as previously stated, a few look worthy even without removing grime. Is the "conservation" an option with PCGS?

Bill
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 Posted 09/12/2018  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
We really need, at the very least, dates and mint marks. That will either narrow them down or rule them all out.
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 Posted 09/12/2018  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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Is the "conservation" an option with PCGS?


It is, but it is expensive with them. You would be looking at costs of something like 50 or 60 dollars a coin with PCGS for the grading and conservation. That's fine if you are willing to pay that from sentimental value, if you are thinking of selling though from how you've described them the cost of that would be more than most if not all will be worth
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