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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I replied to your thread in the grading section - we'll need pics with different lighting from different angles to determine if this is a proof, and to determine the grade.
@Ballyhoo - not sure how you can determine if it's a proof or business strike from these pics....could just be a well-struck business strike.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I'm pretty sure it's not a proof by the rounded rims . And yes I believe this ONCE MS-66 was dipped too long removing all of the coins luster . 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Perhaps, pics taken at angle will reveal reflective surfaces if present? Regardless, certification would be recommended.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Perhaps, pics taken at angle will reveal reflective surfaces if present? Regardless, certification would be recommended. I do not understand. If the forum can determine its not a proof (using better pics), then, then why spend the money for slabbing? Especially if it would come back as improperly cleaned? What am I missing here? 
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Valued Member
United States
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The current photos make the coin look dipped n(stripped of luster). Can you upload better photos? Great details though!
Is that a small die break at 1 o'clock? Did proofs have die breaks?
Those 1883 N/C coins often had some really nice die breaks.
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Rest in Peace
United States
18456 Posts |
I'm for one NOT recommending sending this coin in for a proof designation . With that complete lack of luster it will be not worth it . 
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Moderator
 United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Is that a small die break at 1 o'clock? Did proofs have die breaks? I don't see a die break. I do see a die crack, and yes proofs can have die cracks. However I do not believe it to be a proof due to the weakness in the left side of the wreath (The right side is unusually strong though). As for those who have said it can't be a prof because of the lack of luster, I thing the images are giving it that dull washed out appearance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 bluewatergg! I don't believe this to be a proof.To Me it is a MAD.If you look at the twelve o'clock rim, it' is rounded,right before the edge,then squares off.And at six o'clock,it is so close to the rim,that it gives it a squared look. The reverse is a little blurry so I can't tell,but I think the same effect is there too.JMO Still,a very nice coin though. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
595 Posts |
 If I may ask, are the photos posted actually scans? Scanned coins often do not show luster and appear as these images do. It also looks like the pictures are slightly out of focus, which may be affecting how square the rims look. Rim squareness is a diagnostic of a proof.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Rest in Peace
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The detail on the face screams fake, but why not, send it in, your money.
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Pillar of the Community
5464 Posts |
Can I ask, where you got the coin from?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7375 Posts |
Blurry photos and poor lighting  OP has vanished.
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Moderator
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