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2013 Series $5 Miscut Note Error

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 Posted 01/28/2019  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Interesting!

You don't see many errors on the nextgen "Bighead" notes!
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 Posted 01/28/2019  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list
Very strange..? hope for OP its the real deal
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 Posted 01/28/2019  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Stever - How would something like this happen at the BEP?
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 Posted 01/28/2019  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list

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Stever - How would something like this happen at the BEP?


From what I understand, after the second print, the 32-subject sheets are cut into half sheets. Then, the 16-subject half sheets are stacked and receive serial numbers and seals. So far, everything is fine with the sheet this note is printed on. It has to be that the 16-subject half sheet was pulled partially to the right and folded 90 degrees, and then cut. This might also explain the fraying on the right side.

My best guess.
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 Posted 01/28/2019  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list

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Looks like junior found a paper cutter and dad's uncut sheets to me.

According to USPaperMoney.info, the series 2013 $5 sheets were printed as Atlanta FRB notes. The OPs note is a Cleveland note, so I don't see how it could be post BEP manufactured.

with Steve on how the error occurred. It's a D4 position note and a pull to the right before cutting the sheet in half would account for this error. The fraying probably occurred as this too wide note made its way through the rest of the printing process.
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01/28/2019 4:55 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2019  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
The plate position of the OP's note is F4, putting the note on right side of the stack being cut .


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 Posted 01/28/2019  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Thanks Steve and BD - very helpful.
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 Posted 01/28/2019  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list

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The plate position of the OP's note is F4, putting the note on right side of the stack being cut .


Steve,

Am I missing something. Isn't the D4 on the note the plate position? I don't collect $5s so I could easily be mistaken about this.

The serial number does correspond to F4 position with a print run of 200,000 sheets, but it corresponds to D4 if the run was 100,000 sheets. So, I figured the run must have been 100,000 sheets.
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 Posted 01/28/2019  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list
Thanks for all the help Steve. I knew posting this here and letting you talk while I worked would save me time in research. Here are pics of security thread and water mark. The note measures 6.75" should have mentioned that in first post.

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 Posted 01/28/2019  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
The D4 is the District letter/number for Cleveland. The F4 plate position is hidden next to the lower left "5" , just below the the Treasurers signature.
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01/28/2019 5:19 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2019  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list
Thanks Steve.

I see it there now

With the note in the F4 position, it's not as clear to me how the error occurred.

As I understand it, the 32 note sheet is first cut into 2 16 note sheets and the 3rd printing occurs. The 16 note sheets are then cut into 8 2 note sheets, which are then cut into single notes. Since this F4 position note includes part of the B 4 position note with it, it seems like the error must have occurred at the final cut when the 2 note sheet is cut into single notes and not when the 32 note sheet is cut in half?
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 Posted 01/28/2019  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffbuckes to your friends list
This is better than NCIS - I love the forensic analysis in this forum.
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 Posted 01/28/2019  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaWolfster to your friends list
Learning a lot in this post.....
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 Posted 01/29/2019  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list

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It seems like the error must have occurred at the final cut when the 2 note sheet is cut into single notes


I agree.
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 Posted 01/29/2019  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brenpickle to your friends list
Steve and BadDog thanks for the help in explaining this. The plate position and things was very useful. I agree with your analysis that this happened at the last cut since the 3rd print is aligned correctly. It would be so cool if I could ever find the other bill one day.
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