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Scottish 6p, Mintmark "5"

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 Posted 08/10/2008  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Wouldn't 5 shillings be larger?
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 Posted 08/10/2008  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list
How can you tell the size of it?
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 Posted 08/10/2008  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list
The coinage for Queen Anne (1702-1714) was confined to just two denominations (5 and 10 shillings) minted in 1705 and 1706. After the Union of Scotland and England in 1707 the mint at Edinburgh continued for a time producing crowns, half crowns, shillings and sixpences marked with the letter E.
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 Posted 08/10/2008  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Does it look like a Thaler-sized coin? To me it does not although I'm no expert.
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 Posted 08/10/2008  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list
Where are you getting visual clues for perspective? i.e. how do you work it out without having any trees or mountains to compare it with?..
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08/10/2008 5:39 pm
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Well, I'm pretty sure it's not Thaler sized because it doesn't fill the 2x2 window. However beyond that, size is any one's guess!
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 Posted 08/10/2008  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Even if the 2x2 is 38.5 mm in diameter (the largest you can get here), there is still some free space, at least 3 mm. So 35.5 at most. Less if the 2x2 is one of the smaller sizes. Still this discussion doesn't really lead anywhere as we'd only excluded Thalers so far
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 Posted 08/10/2008  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
The "5" is indeed the denomionation, 5 shillings.

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Wouldn't 5 shillings be larger?

Does it look like a Thaler-sized coin? To me it does not although I'm no expert.

Since the OP calls it a "sixpence", I assume it's roughly sixpence-sized. Don't forget, the Scottish shilling was equivalent to the English penny, so a Scottish 5 shilling coin would be 5 English pence - a bit smaller than a sixpence.
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Regardless, it is a lovely coin and you should be proud to own it :)
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 Posted 08/10/2008  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list
From my copy of Seaby's Standard Catalog, Sap has just answered the question academically.

Thanks for posting an interesting coin malibu!
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 Posted 08/10/2008  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malibu to your friends list
Ack! I went away for dinner and watched some Olympics (go Canada go!!)and already 14 replies! Sorry about the oversight in my OP, its about 18mm in diameter which is almost 6p size and I had always just assumed it was a 6p and that the 5 below Anne was an E! In re-reading Peter Seaby's "Story of the English Coinage" (1952), and armed with a 10x magnifier instead of a 3x I used to swear by, the 'E' magically turned into a '5' this morning.

This is not covered by this book... he only states "One of the articles of the Act of Union was that the English and Scottish coinages should be equated. Previously the Scottish denominations were only one-twelfth the value of the English, but between 1707 and 1709 crowns, halfcrowns, shillings and sixpences were made at the Edinburgh mint similar in type to the English coins but distinguished by en E or E* below the queen's bust. In 1709 the Scottish mint was closed down."

So Sap is (as usual) right on the money!
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Since the OP calls it a "sixpence", I assume it's roughly sixpence-sized. Don't forget, the Scottish shilling was equivalent to the English penny, so a Scottish 5 shilling coin would be 5 English pence - a bit smaller than a sixpence.


Sap is correct. I have two Scottish 5 shillings pieces, one William and one Anne. Here is a picture of an English William sixpence together with the William Scottish 5 shilling.

Scottish-6p,-Mintmark-
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I have not seen many 5 shilling pieces for sale. They seem very scarce. I don't recall ever seeing any 10 shilling pieces.

Here some scans of my two:

Scottish-6p,-Mintmark- Scottish-6p,-Mintmark-

Scottish-6p,-Mintmark- Scottish-6p,-Mintmark-
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G'day,
beautiful coins.
is KW3 displaying some jewellery on his ear ?
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A fabulous earring! It looks like the engraver's guide dot at the center of the coin was entered twice. A small blunder, I guess. There is a faint guide dot at the center of the Anne coin too.
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