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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Ya know, if someone wants what you have, its almost impossible to stop it. I DID want to stop the common burgular (or meth addict around here) by allowing him/her to take the TV's and the radios and what-not, but to have no choice but to leave the safe. With the addition of the contents, I think it comes in at around 900 to 1000 lbs. The person that can get that out of the house, I don't want to mess with anyway!.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1840 Posts |
A safe is a good idea.
An insurance rider would nicely compliment the safe.
The talk of gun-play is just plain silly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3499 Posts |
acidic1- Very nice! I should invest in one of those.
P.S. Very nice collection of Mystery Science Theater VHS tapes!
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
Bank vault doors are cheap if you bide your time. Make your own vault. Better yet, buy a bank building.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Spins me out when I read posts with people saying keep a handgun loaded in the safe, or keep one next to your bed etc. etc.
Handguns are illegal here unless you belong to a gun club, or are licensed to have one for your work. Even then the gun and ammo has to be kept in two separate, locked boxes inside a safe. It also has to be registered, and the police have the right to turn up at your door to make sure you comply with all the laws and regulations. Except on the hip of a police officer, I have never even seen one.
And I think with a safe that size, you don't have too much to worry about. Your run of the mill burglar isn't going to get it open, or be able to take it. The problem will occur if someone does break in, they may come back latter better prepared.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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IIRC, OZ paid people to turn in guns a few years back. Predictably, the crooks kept theirs, and crime rates skyrocketed.
Speaking of big safes, one of my customers in the 60s had an old Wells Fargo safe in his garage, which was built around it. It was about 7' tall and 5' on a side, and had about a cubic foot of storage. It's prolly still there, since you'd have to dismantle the grudge to get it out.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I regret not buying a section of lock boxes. 100 boxes, mostly 5x5, but a couple of 10x10 and about a dozen 5x10. Not only nearly impossible to move, but it would take forever to open them, and they could be used for sorting.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1040 Posts |
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OZ paid people to turn in guns a few years back. Predictably, the crooks kept theirs, and crime rates skyrocketed Actually, crime rates fell, and have continued to do so every year since. Crime stats released this week show burglaries are down over 40% in the last 5 years. Couple that with our TOTAL homicide rate of less than 400 people per year for the whole country, with firearms accounting for only 16% of that number and still falling, compared to 44% in 1968 before gun control began, and I would say it was a wise decision. |
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United States
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When I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Some types of crime increased the first year, but the long-term effect is down.
Doesn't change the fact that properly placed firepower lowers the recidivism rate to zero.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Spins me out when I read posts with people saying keep a handgun loaded in the safe, or keep one next to your bed etc. etc. Before entering college, I worked in a hunting store where we sold guns for hunting as well as handguns. After that experience, I have my doubts whether a handgun makes the average household any safer from intruders. Here, a police officer is trained to draw his weapon only when the situation calls for it--and to ultimately prevent further harm. There are probably notable exceptions to the average handgun owner, but I doubt many have any training to make proper judgment calls. Unlike driving a car, no training or education is required. So after waiting 10 days (in CA), the average buyer takes home their gun and may get some practice, but ultimately hopes that simply pointing a gun at an intruder will make their family safe. I have my doubts it works that way. Edited by KurtS
08/21/2008 1:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3294 Posts |
I would never buy a handgun. When it comes to intruders, pump action shotguns are far superior and a lot more intimidating.
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New Member
United States
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I've visited a few banks, asking if I could see their safes, and if they had any "extras." Now I don't understand why, but I'm hastily escorted off the premises...how rude, it was just a question!
Haha!  Edited by PhilG
08/21/2008 7:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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After spending a lifetime in law enforcement, the only thing I have to say is. GIVE IT UP. Only two items in your household, with time and perseverance can't be replaced. You and your family. Every graveyard has its dead hero whose life ended with there own self defense weapon. It's just not worth it. Even if you do come out on top, no matter what the circumstances, the taking of another human beings life is something you have to live with the rest of yours. Think about it.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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After spending a lifetime in law enforcement, the only thing I have to say is. GIVE IT UP This is the wisest piece of advice here. I have yet to find any possession that is worth more than the life of my loved ones or myself. I have studied martial arts for more than 24 years now, and taught for over 15. I always teach to give up your valuables if confronted with a weapon. Only defend if you truly believe your life is in danger. It is simply not worth it. We also teach that you should expect to get hurt when you defend against a weapon, it is that simple. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Even if you do come out on top, no matter what the circumstances, the taking of another human beings life is something you have to live with the rest of yours. Think about it. Very well said. Quote:
Doesn't change the fact that properly placed firepower lowers the recidivism rate to zero. recidivism... Good word fredd. |
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