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1944 LWC Big Deep Obverse Lamination

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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list
I am in the odd shape lam that broke off camp
My newbie guess
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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Here is the opposite area that would be affected if it were PSD:
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The rim show some damage on the reverse.
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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Not seeing damage in those areas coop, the rims are bumped and bruised but that's it
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 Posted 06/27/2019  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
If this is a struck through, then how could it have happened before the strike? It would have had to be struck twice. I'm thinking planchet flaw.

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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Probably right CoinHunter
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It kind of reminds me of acid from an dropper issue. But I'm still undecided at this point. It can't be a lamination as they run more in a straight line. The devices of the date aren't altered like a struck through would cause.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list


I think that any altering of the coin post mint would have caused the date to be altered too, so that is what is convincing me it is not PSD. The devices involved in the area are too strong to have the error happen after the strike. The coin had to have been struck after the error was present. I'm still thinking it's some kind of planchet flaw.

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 Posted 06/28/2019  05:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
CH, IMHO as deep as the void is, if it had been a planchet flaw with no metal in that area, the devices would not be there.(Neck, tie , throat for instance)
If it had been a struck through extra metal and that fell out the details could still be there as they get transferred pretty deep into the metal.

And Coops thoughts on acid from a dropper seems to fit also, except I think the profile of the 1 would have been affected.

EDIT: Just noticed a little "dip" in the outline below the tie (in the area where the void seems to disappear). It almost looks like there is a short "finger tip" of metal, extending south, that hasn't fallen out.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  06:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list
Not from an acid dropper as the design doesn't show to be eaten away. I'm not sold on it being a defective planchet because the design is too strong. I am leaning towards strike through. Best one I have seen.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list
Very nice struck through coin !
Were this a lam there would be striations of the metal in the recess that are the hallmark of lams.
The overall circulated condition of the coin is somewhat disguising how soft the design details are in the recessed area that were caused from them being transferred through a foriegn object. Note how the fold of the jacket goes from sharp to soft as it enters the struck through area
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 Posted 06/28/2019  06:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
If we can't decide I'll shoot mikediamond a message.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  07:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
It appears to be a struck-through error. The lack of striations in the depression, the lack of lamination cracks outside the depression, and the smoothly sloping margins of the depression are all consistent with a foreign object having been struck into the coin.
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 Posted 06/28/2019  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Thanks mikediamond! I really appreciate your answer!
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 Posted 06/28/2019  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Oops! Not what I was expecting. Looks like I've still got some more to learn. ;) Nice find GC!

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