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1867 Two Cent DDO- Will It Straight Grade?

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 Posted 09/08/2019  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
I don't have acetone. It looks like some kind of residue?

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 Posted 09/08/2019  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Buy acetone at any hardware store. That apparent residue might well come off. Just soak the coin, perhaps overnight, in a covered dish. Don't scrub it! If it doesn't come off, I doubt the coin will straight grade.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
The glue residue will come off with Acetone. The scratch will be the big problem. It will "details" the grade.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You're probably right.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
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If you buy acetone make sure it's 100% pure, not nail polish remover
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 Posted 09/08/2019  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Could you provide a closeup of the specific region supporting the alleged DDO?
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 Posted 09/08/2019  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
@mp, it's FS-101. You can see a spread on the left arrowhead.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
It's worth keeping as a DD but I very much doubt that would pass at most TPG.
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 Posted 09/08/2019  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
Even if the stuff comes off, it looks like there some kind of cut or scratch on the obverse...
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 Posted 09/08/2019  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list
There is a LOT of DD on that little beast.

If it were a 100 year newer Lincoln it would be a high priced coin.

I may have to keep an eye out for one.
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 Posted 09/13/2019  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I really don't think it would pass the muster as a straight grade at a top tier TPG only due to the deep cut on the obverse through the shield. THat's enough to be a detail damage or grafitti. I do think the acetone would improve it, I put all my Two Cent Pieces through an acetone rinse just to remove potential hiding PVC residue that could continue to etch the coin in the future, in your case I'd bet it would also remove the gunk on the reverse, too. I do find when removing glue residue though often the coin is very different colored underneath the old residue and sometimes it even looks worse. Not much one can do about that other than ahit it with Deller's Darkener (but I don't do that myself, I just hope they will mellow over the next few decades now that I've conserved them.

I just found my lowest grade 2C DDO a couple weeks ago, at least as worn as this one, always a cool find! I'm not even sure how many I have now, but I'd think it's around 20 or so.
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Quote:
...Deller's Darkener


Does this work best only with Cu patina?
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 Posted 09/15/2019  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Yes Dellers Darkner is only for copper, it is also supposed to work on bronze though I've not tried that. It doesn't work on silver, it is a sulphur based paste as I recall, not a big fan of it, bet it does do it's thing on ugly cleaned copper. I heard it is no longer made, though still available on eBay/Amazon/etc. I no longer see it listed at Wizard, it was made by Harco.

A little history on Harco - https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ct-cour...1464129.html Not a happy ending at all. I see one guy selling the Dellers on ebay at $18.00 tube, as I recall it was MSRP around $3 or $4 per tube - (Not really a tube), but a small little hard plastic container. The stuff stinks like sulphur and has the consistency of vaseline. Probably was a petroleum base they mixed the sulphur powder into.

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