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Help Me Grade My Coin! 1796 16 Star Half Dollar Draped Bust.

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 Posted 09/20/2019  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfdollarcoin to your friends list
Why would it not get a grading when it's holed and plugged? I've seen a few coins like this at auction that were graded and holed and plugged.
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 Posted 09/20/2019  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfdollarcoin to your friends list
Ohhh I see now. It would just be listed as genuine and will get no grading. New to the Coin World so I didn't know.
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 Posted 09/20/2019  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
The closer I look at this, the more I think it's a very good counterfeit. Here is a comparison of the lower reverse with the OP's coin on the upper left. The other three coins are genuine 1796 16-star halves of similar grade from Heritage past sales. The 1 is too thick, and the shape of the 2 is incorrect on the OP's coin. With those subtle discrepancies, along with the small size of the loops in the date, in my opinion it's doubtful this will come back genuine. But given the high stakes, of course you'll need to send it in anyway.

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 Posted 09/20/2019  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
The numbers one issue that would give me concern is the lack of spacing between the denticles on the OP coin. The lack of spacing does appear to be from wear. Please keep us informed on the TPG results.
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 Posted 09/21/2019  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfdollarcoin to your friends list
I see that too, and stacks and bowers noted that was from being holed and plugged there, so part of the 1/2 and the bow was restored. I'm curious too and will definitely send it in. Heritage said they are 95% sure it's genuine so fingers crossed! I'll definitely update when I find out. Does anyone know how long it takes to grade?

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 Posted 11/06/2019  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfdollarcoin to your friends list
Just thought I'd let you all know it got a PCGS genuine VG details grading!
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 Posted 11/06/2019  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Congrats, an excellent result. It had me completely fooled. It's a great looking coin with an expert repair job.
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 Posted 11/06/2019  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Wow. Nice. I was in wrong camp on this one.
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 Posted 11/06/2019  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list
Quite a find
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 Posted 11/07/2019  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I am a bit more confident in identifying fakes an offering an opinion from pictures, but
I refrained from offering an opinion in this case. I wasn't confident enough.
However, I am very happy to see it come back slabbed, and declared as genuine.

My forte is better, when it comes to ancients.

Even with the plug, I would be very happy to include this coin in my collection !
I would think that there are only a very few members, here in the CCF, that are fortunate enough to have a very early product of the U.S. Mint in their collection.
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 Posted 11/07/2019  08:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
Congratulations! that is a scarce coin. PCGS says the estimated population for the 1796 16-Star is 40.
You say you intend to sell it?
If it was mine I would keep it, if at all possible.
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 Posted 11/09/2019  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfdollarcoin to your friends list
Wow I had no idea the population was only 40! We will be auctioning it through stacks and bowers in march. They've been very helpful and they were the only ones who correctly pointed out it was holed and plugged. Does anyone have an idea what the value of a coin like this might be?
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 Posted 02/20/2020  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfdollarcoin to your friends list
Updating to let you all know the coin is coming up at auction in March at Stack's & Bowers. Thank you all for the help. http://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lo...plugged-PCGS
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 Posted 02/20/2020  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Congratulation on getting the coin in a TPG holder. Those are nice photos taken by Stacks. I would expect the coin to sell for 20K+.
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 Posted 02/20/2020  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Awesome coin, will be watching.
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