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2017 P Roosevelt Dime Error?

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 Posted 10/29/2019  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I'd see what they are going for. But I doubt they will exceed $200. All counts on coin grade. As a coin buyer. I pay nothing extra for a graded coin. Just raw pricing.
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 Posted 10/29/2019  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
I've been wrong before and I may be wrong this time, but here goes.

I still think this is a normal dime that's been copper washed. You can see areas where the clad shows through the copper "layer" on the obverse and reverse. The area where the copper is totally missing looks like it is below the surrounding copper colored surfaces, so I'm thinking that's the original clad layer that's been exposed. Also, I've never seen a coin with both clad layers missing. The weight being what it is and the strong strike, I just don't think it's an error. Missing clad means weak details and unless the copper core was rolled without any clad to start with, I just don't understand.

There is a way to have this checked. If you can find a shop that buys silver and gold, they should have a tool that will tell what metal is in the coin. If it shows that the coin contains 8.33% nickel, with the rest being copper, then it's a regular dime. If the scan shows the coin is almost 100% copper, then it's an error.

Here's a missing single clad layer and you can see how much the coins details have been affected. With both layers missing, the strike would be even weaker.

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 Posted 10/29/2019  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
I was also thinking I would see a bigger weight reduction....

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 Posted 10/30/2019  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
if the clad layer was missing , how could it be over-weight I'm on team Yokozuna
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 Posted 10/30/2019  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
If you want to be 100%. You can polish a small area and see if it changes colors
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 Posted 10/30/2019  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list

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If you want to be 100%. You can polish a small area and see if it changes colors


Not a good option because that would be considered damage and if it's legit, Uh oh!!
Do an NDT (Non-Destructive Test) first like Yokozuna suggested. It is an XRF tester (LINK- https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/...hnology.html ) .
Scrap Yards, jewelers and pawn shops are a possibility for having a tester.

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 Posted 10/30/2019  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dube76 to your friends list
Okay so would a numismatic shop be better then just a "silver and gold" shop. There are many of both in my area, CT/NY
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 Posted 10/30/2019  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
It is the real deal, why mess with it. Any alteration could drastically drop the price. When you see a small bit of the rim of the cladding, you know it is real. Keep it safe in a 2X2.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
Sorry Coop your wrong. This would have to start out over 3.5 before both layers were missing. That would be 50% overweight, never seen it.
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 Posted 10/30/2019  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dube76 to your friends list
would better pictures of the rim help clarify anything?
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 Posted 10/30/2019  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Clad dimes are 2.27 grams. This one shows a 2.3 grams for weight. The design is not showing weakness despite it having both clad are missing. I would like to see the height compared with a clad dime. I thinking the height will be the same as normal. Note on the reeds, there is no clad metal on the edge of the coin. When the blanks are cut, you can see the clad on the edge wrapping around the top to bottom on the edge. When you look at the edges, the cupro-nickel clad on the edge of the coin will show which direction the blank was cut. But on this coin not a hint of cladding on the edge. So it looks like the cladding was mostly missing off this coin. The obverse shows a tiny speck of cladding on the rim at 2:00. Usually when you see a missing cladding on one edge of the coin you see weakness of the strike. On this coin, no weakness. So the weight is within allowance for a dime. So unless the weight that is posted is wrong, where am I incorrect?
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 Posted 10/31/2019  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Might be worth the effort and money to send off to ANACS?
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 Posted 10/31/2019  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
The XRF test would determine the percentage of metals in the coin without damaging the coin.
This could help exclude the possibility someone copper plated a regular dime.

(Debris may have caused any plating to fall off at the "silvery" area of the rim.)
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 Posted 10/31/2019  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
This dime was struck on an improperly annealed planchet. Excessive heat caused the copper atoms in the clad layer to segregate out and migrate to the surface. A nice example of this error type.
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 Posted 10/31/2019  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Thanks Mike.
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