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Multiple Strikes On 1983 Penny?

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 Posted 11/29/2019  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list
I agree that this doesn't seem to be a vise job. In that case, it might be worth enough to have it slabbed. I'd really like to have @coop weigh in on this one though.
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 Posted 11/29/2019  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
why is the second strike so weak? yes it is oriented correctly, but that can also be achieved with a soft die.(not saying this is the case here)...Shouldn't the second strike damage some of the first strike?
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 Posted 11/29/2019  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list
it looks like a real in the collar, flip over double strike!

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why is the second strike so weak? yes it is oriented correctly, but that can also be achieved with a soft die.(not saying this is the case here)...Shouldn't the second strike damage some of the first strike?


The first strike is weak because it was flattened by the second strike. The light lines are from the first strike.

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 Posted 11/29/2019  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddyknuckles to your friends list
no inversion of the letters in the third picture from the bottom cent is clear and properly orientated on the obverse was very hopeful when I clicked on this to not see the run of the mill vise job not a professional but looks very worth slabbing to me. what is the circle above pluribus on the obverse anyone? where's COOP when you need him. nice find dpm
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 Posted 11/29/2019  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Looks good. Wonderful find!



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 Posted 11/29/2019  1:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list
In a case like this, how would the second strike happen, unless the coin was placed back into the feeder. It appears to me the coin was not only double struck, but flipped as well. I find it hard to understand how a coin could flip, and end up oriented to be struck a second time, in the die in the right spot only rotated a bit.
I wonder if it was deliberate.

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 Posted 11/29/2019  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
I would like to here Mikes comment on it.
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 Posted 11/29/2019  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
It looks good to me.


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what is the circle above pluribus on the obverse

The 8 in the date from the first strike.

As for how it happens, the coin gets ejected but not pushed out of the coining area and from vibrations of the press as it is operating it eventually found its way back into the coining chamber upside down and was struck a second time. Alternate theory, this was during the era when they were still transporting blanks and coins around in wheeled hoppers/carts. A struck cent got stuck in the hopper which was then filled with planchets and taken back to the presses. The coin dislodged and was fed back in through the press and struck a second time. Although slightly larger in diameter than the planchets it may still have been able to pass through the feeding apparatus.
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 Posted 11/29/2019  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list
Flip strike

Nice score!
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 Posted 11/29/2019  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beachnut to your friends list
Nice find. Cool coin. Congrats.
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 Posted 11/29/2019  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dpm11786 to your friends list
Awesome guys thx for the expertise and knowledge. So any advice on what I shld do next? Do I need to send it off for certification to make sure it's legit? And who wld I send it too?
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 Posted 11/29/2019  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddyknuckles to your friends list
Thank you conder101 where I first saw just one circle now the 9 and the 8 are apparent wow nice find there have me drooling every time I look at it seeing details I had missed previously. Is this one worth slabbing given its condition?
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 Posted 11/29/2019  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Looks like another double strike. This is what they usually look like. The first strike was weakened by the second strike. The one the other day was not that way though. Thus why I questioned that one. When the alignment was correct, I knew it was a legit coin. Nice find.
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 Posted 11/30/2019  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Dpm11786,
If you send it in I would use PCGS. Make sure you pay the extra for the attribution.
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Excellent find.

And thanks Condor1 for reminding me about the second scenario of leaving the coining area, returning and still fitting in the collar die even though it might have been a tight squeeze.
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