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1881-H Single Serif N - Thoughts?

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 Posted 03/28/2020  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list
I'm sorry to resurrect this post but I have a question for papeldog. Just wondering if your coin has a doubled last 1 in date. Just looking at mine and noticed on my coin. I tried to message you but it won't allow me too. Sam
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 Posted 03/28/2020  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
Sammeli, that may be a clash mark instead of a doubled 1.

There is another topic on CCF that shows several similar clashes at the 1. It's on the first page of the thread near the bottom.

http://goccf.com/t/327070&SearchTerms=1881
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 Posted 03/28/2020  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list
Thank you for info
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 Posted 03/28/2020  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
Sammeli, no mine is a regular 1 on my ssn, but I do have a 1881 with the die clash 1
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 Posted 03/28/2020  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list
Thank you for checking
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 Posted 03/29/2020  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list
This brings up some interesting questions about the 1881 SSN.

Are there two different 1881-H reverse dies? (unlikely)
or
Are there two different die states of the same reverse die? (probably)

and

Is there an 1876-H or 1882-H reverse paired with the same obverse die?


It sure would be fun to compare high resolution photos of all of the known 1881-H SSN's.

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 Posted 03/29/2020  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Phil: The questions that you raise might have already been answered (kinda) by someone who has been doing what Haxby has done with the '59's and attempting it with the Vicky Obv 1's, 1a's, 1a/1's and 2/1's. I think that the info might be available, in some manner, in the next few months, who knows?. Also, I don't think that Sammeli was talking about his coin being a SSN ... at least the way I read it.

Yes, there are a number of '81 Reverses. The Reverse dies wore out/broke about 3-5 times the Obverse dies. I would estimate that there were 25-30 Obverse dies for '81 total (1 & 1a).
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 Posted 03/29/2020  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Here is/was my 1881 SSN that is now in someone else's collection. Here's a few shots of different parts of the Obv, one of the reverse and an old QX5 shot of the "offset 1", that I agree may be a clash. I'd have to look at them again some time .. I originally thought that it was an MD.
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 Posted 03/29/2020  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
After reading over your posts I decided to examine mine again you are correct my ssn does have the die clash. I looked at it again with better lighting and at different angles it shows up sorry for confusion
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 Posted 03/29/2020  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Jim: I don't think that my '81 had the die clash ... and what was the die clash from? What part of the Obv?
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 Posted 03/29/2020  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list
Okie I was referring to my ssn coin. Mine is the same as the last picture in your post.
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 Posted 03/29/2020  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list
i will check my ssn as well, once I get one
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 Posted 03/29/2020  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list
I agree Bill years ago when I posted a picture of one of these DP or die clash 1's I posted it as a DP 1 but it was decided by others that it was a die clash on Canadian Copper Coins when it was thriving in action. I can't figure out what would made a clash either if one?
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 Posted 03/30/2020  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list
I have an 1881H with the die-clash 1 like Sammeli's. The extra line matches the queen's throat. At the top of the 1, you can see the turn of the throat to the chin going to the right. My coin also has the same die clash line of the bust under the H that is on the bead die-clash variety (no bead clash). obverse is 1a/1.
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 Posted 03/30/2020  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list

Quote:
The extra line matches the queen's throat.


I agree with Terry. I have an 1881 with a similar die clash on the 1. It is not a SSN obverse.


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