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1881 H Single Serif N - Thoughts?

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 Posted 02/13/2020  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 02/13/2020  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 02/14/2020  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dorado .... that's not a single serif N.
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 Posted 02/14/2020  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 02/15/2020  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1881H SSNs is certainly a minor variety in the great scheme of things. My guess is it's from a partially-used 1876H obverse that was carried over.

That being said, it is an easily-recognizable variety, is listed in the standard catalogs and is well known to be really scarce -- all positives. So there are going to be people who want one badly and will pay up for one. How much is hard to say, but in my opinion two determined bidders could easily push your coin north of $1000. It's most unlikely that a hoard of them will ever turn up! And yours is a pretty nice one.
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 Posted 03/28/2020  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry to resurrect this post but I have a question for papeldog. Just wondering if your coin has a doubled last 1 in date. Just looking at mine and noticed on my coin. I tried to message you but it won't allow me too. Sam
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 Posted 03/28/2020  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sammeli, that may be a clash mark instead of a doubled 1.

There is another topic on CCF that shows several similar clashes at the 1. It's on the first page of the thread near the bottom.

http://goccf.com/t/327070&SearchTerms=1881
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Thank you for info
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 Posted 03/28/2020  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sammeli, no mine is a regular 1 on my ssn, but I do have a 1881 with the die clash 1
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 Posted 03/28/2020  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sammeli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for checking
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 Posted 03/29/2020  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This brings up some interesting questions about the 1881 SSN.

Are there two different 1881-H reverse dies? (unlikely)
or
Are there two different die states of the same reverse die? (probably)

and

Is there an 1876-H or 1882-H reverse paired with the same obverse die?


It sure would be fun to compare high resolution photos of all of the known 1881-H SSN's.

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 Posted 03/29/2020  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Phil: The questions that you raise might have already been answered (kinda) by someone who has been doing what Haxby has done with the '59's and attempting it with the Vicky Obv 1's, 1a's, 1a/1's and 2/1's. I think that the info might be available, in some manner, in the next few months, who knows?. Also, I don't think that Sammeli was talking about his coin being a SSN ... at least the way I read it.

Yes, there are a number of '81 Reverses. The Reverse dies wore out/broke about 3-5 times the Obverse dies. I would estimate that there were 25-30 Obverse dies for '81 total (1 & 1a).
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 Posted 03/29/2020  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is/was my 1881 SSN that is now in someone else's collection. Here's a few shots of different parts of the Obv, one of the reverse and an old QX5 shot of the "offset 1", that I agree may be a clash. I'd have to look at them again some time .. I originally thought that it was an MD.




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 Posted 03/29/2020  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After reading over your posts I decided to examine mine again you are correct my ssn does have the die clash. I looked at it again with better lighting and at different angles it shows up sorry for confusion
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 Posted 03/29/2020  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jim: I don't think that my '81 had the die clash ... and what was the die clash from? What part of the Obv?
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