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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If it is damage (and probably is), it's still a cool coin!  |
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 United States
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Thank you for your opinion, but with all due respect, I can hardly imagine how a force that big can move only this number and not the others and the surrounding area! I have another explanation, about as good as the probability of PMD, although it might has a conspiracy theory feeling! What if there was a die without the last digit, for whatever reason, and they minted a certain number of 1975 coins before they noticed it and to save it or hide the mistake, someone punched the number 5 on them by hand. I do not know if this would be possible in a mint, but that would explain the off position and the occurrence in that year only. Thank you for your understanding and please, don't tell my doctor anything about this!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What if the coin didn't way 3.11 grams after minting and maybe they injected gold into the center of the coin? Should we start cutting them in half in order to find the gold?....  Your coin suffers from PMD...spend it and forget it |
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Valued Member
United States
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Dear Greasy Fingers, I understand your frustration, sometimes it is hard to face with different opinions! I deeply respect all of you expert guys, and I gladly accept your opinion also in this case if you can provide a factual explanation, what I hope to get, and not an authoritarian revelation of how the tilting happened. But until then, one hypothesis is just as good as the other. I admit that my primitive theory is bleeding profoundly, but let me paste here a small excerpt from Wikipedia, that it might not completely baseless: Punching errors
Historically, some design elements near the outer perimeter of a die were added by punching because technology made it difficult to press both the central and perimeter design elements at the same time. Also, some dies were made without mint marks or dates to permit their use at different mints and in later years. A die technician added missing elements by positioning a punch, a small steel rod with the mirror image of a letter or number on it, and striking the punch with a hammer pressing the image into the die.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mint-made_errors[/blue] I do not know how that rod looks like, but if it have had the number 5 on it only, then it might could be possible to punch it tilted. Or not. But that is for sure! Anyway, the coin otherwise still weighs only 3.05 grams, so someone cheated with the gold! Edited by Preantique
02/20/2020 10:26 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The only thing they added by hand in 1975 was the mint mark, so if your 5 is tilted as you claim then it was part of the master die and there would be millions out there, but if you are so sure you hit the jackpot send it in for grading and be sure you let us know the results
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Look at both sides of the coin. It looks like it spent a lot of time in a parking lot. Just a damaged coin.
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Valued Member
United States
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Oldmike, you completely misunderstood me! If you read my comments carefully, I have never mentioned value! I just would like to know HOW this could happen! PMD is not a reason, it is a result! I hoped that someone would say, for example, that hey dummy, that's simple, an unstable die turned and twisted the number! Or something completely different, whatever, I don't know! But looks like, closing ranks is more important than giving a factual explanation! Actually, the closest thing to an explanation was what I found at another coin website, that rings with what coop mentioned about contact marks, but I don't know what that exactly means. Furthermore, despite the mentioning of this kind of tilting, I could not find any picture of other coins. That's another thing I would be grateful if you could send! And just to make matters more interesting, I discovered, that above the tilted 5 there is a curved metal protrusion that I don't know how the hack could get there! See attached picture to this comment! That's it for now and I am really sorry, if you or anybody else felt themselves offended by any of my word! Have a nice day 
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Valued Member
United States
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Thank you, coop, I can accept that, it is a PLD, Parking Lot Damage! Case closed! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
607 Posts |
I am revisiting this topic a year later because I also have found a 1975 with the crooked 5. Has anyone had any other conclusions other then PMD since the original posting in 2020? This coin is in decent shape, and the date does not seem affected by significant PMD. Your feedback is appreciated.    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am revisiting this topic a year later because I also have found a 1975 with the crooked 5. Has anyone had any other conclusions other then PMD since the original posting in 2020? This coin is in decent shape, and the date does not seem affected by significant PMD. Your feedback is appreciated. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
607 Posts |
close up of the 5  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree this is just displaced metal from a circulation swipe.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
607 Posts |
Hi Coinfrog, so the theory would be that the date took a hit and displaced the metal?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes. On your new coin, the top bar of the five took a hit and got flattened. You can see it's more spread out and in lower relief. On the original, it appears to have taken a hit to the top left corner of the five (and many more elsewhere).
The theory that they were produced by the same event doesn't hold water; the different shapes indicate that they couldn't have been produced that way by the same die.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Note the concentric scratches between LIBERTY and IN. The result of a coin rolling machine. There also appears to be a similar less pronounced curved line above the 5. I would say a coin rolling machine is the culprit.
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