# 69 Of My Silver Dollars For Grading 1887 P Morgan

Slider unc. No way this is MS63. $25 coin.

I do struggle with getting my pictures to show all the luster and/or cartwheeling on some of these dollars. I took another picture that I'll add here, but I have a question about your answer Slider ..... how can all the high points that ANA grading standards and PCGS say wear before first before other parts be unworn, and yet you say there is wear on her neck that is right next to the lady's lower locks that are high points and should wear first. But that's why I'm here, trying to learn from folks that know more than I do ...... so can you explain that?

The cheek on a Morgan is one of the main areas used for grading and I added the neck comment as a continuation of what I was seeing on the cheek. Open areas on a coin or the highest points show the circulation rub much easier than intricate details. On you first photo the highest points in the hair behind the neck are also showing the grey (color break) rub area.

On your second photo the circulation rub on the check and neck are hidden, but the cap clearly shows wear/circulation rub. On your second photo it makes it much more difficult to tell the coin is likely a AU58.

I'm listening to you guys, I really am, I'm not disagreeing, but I guess I have a lot to learn. I am looking at this PCGS slabbed and graded 1880 MS-63 I have. I see the same what looks to be rubbings on the high point of her cap. The same dull spot on her cheek. I really am trying (under a 10X loop by the way) to see the differences you see in my 1887 and this PCGS 1880. Well, I guess that's why I'm posting these here to learn, but it sure seems like somebody's gonna have to sock me in the head or something cause I just don't see the difference. Here's some pictures of the 1880 I have.

Well Kieth, the reverse on my 85 looks better than the one you pictured,and it's a 63, but your obverse seems to have a few fewer marks both in the field and on the devices. The pictures aren't to great but I'm going with a 63 or 64.

Goes to show you, Grading is all about opinion

About 6 years ago I had submitted a number of better date Morgans to NGC that I bought from a dealer as MS. I thought the coins were clearly MS but almost all came back as AU58. The dealer knew what he was selling. The reason the coins were AU58's: circulation cheek rub. I lost money on the purchase. It took me a while to learn the difference between a quality AU58 Morgan vs MS.

Hey check out this link for a recent sale of an 1887 MS63 graded coin by PCGS.

https://www.PCGS.com/auctionprices/...142089076612