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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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There on the reverse as well
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Here are larger date. Get kinda blurry at this resolution  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Without better pictures, I'm afraid there is not much that can be done to help you. Unless you bought this coin at very low price, I would consider sending it back. I know of no 1886 coins with heavy die polishing lines on it. Are those heavy cleaning lines or just the photo ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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WWhitman, I can neither confirm nor deny based on the photos. Here's the diagnostic photo from VAMWorld to compare ...  Look for the thick bar at the base of the 1, doubling on the lower loop of the first 8, and the curl remnants of a 6 inside the lower loop of the 6. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Another pass at the date. Disregard the color shift.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't believe this is a VAM-20 myself but definately a harshly cleaned coin
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hello, 1st, is this coin wet or something like that?It almost looks like it was varnished or polyed. I really do not think this is a VAM20, WELL AT LEAST FROM THOSE PHOTOS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT YOU PAID FOR THE COIN. IF IT IS A '20" WITH A RARITY OF "7" YOU ARE A LUCKY PERSON, AND I WOULD PURCHASE A LOTTERY TICKET.I SEE THE CLOSE UP PICTURES YOU POSTED AND I STILL DO NOT THINK IT IS A REPUNCHED DATED MORGAN, BE WELL, MORGANS DAD...  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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wwhitman, without clearer pictures and since you mention no other doubling on the coin, the best I can do is VAM 7. High date, both open and closed 6. Yours is an open 6. I agree with others who posted, not a repunched date. Edited by MorgansRmine
10/29/2008 08:04 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Morgans Dad, The second closeup pic was made using the camera at full macro and using tungsten lighting. Since the camera has no color compensation, it turns the 'ugly color and looks awful'. The reason I did it that way was to get the closest possible pic. I am an neophyte at the VAM process. I didn't know that the rest of the coin should be doubled as well. I thought it was the date only. As I look at the coin I see: the 1 and right /below the left hand part of it, I see another 1. the 8s has the remnants of 8's inside the top circle on the right. the 6 has similar remnants. Thanx in advance - just trying to get a handle on this. Oh, by the way I paid $17 USD |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Please explain exactly where the second numerals you see are, and what part of the 2nd numerals you seeare. This all has a bearing on the VAM attributed to the coin. ie: You say you see another 1, well could you please be more specific, do you see the entire number one. Also the number 6 and what else you see in first 6 means the difference of many things. Please be more precise as to what you see, I think we would all benefit from this , yourself inclusive. PS: THANKS FOR THE PICTURE EXPLAINATION... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hang in there WW. Are these simular to what your seeing on your coin ?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MorgansRmine,
Similar but more pronounced.
If you check out the first '8' - reading left to right. It will appear that the top 0 of the 8 is partially filled. Looks like a verticle line in the pic.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MorgansRmine, nice pictures.If anyone can settle this, I would think you are a very strong canidate.I have been trying to extract more information.I am very curious as to the out come,BE WELL...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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wwhitman, sorry it took so long to get back on this. Had a court apearence up in Richmond. I've exhausted all the material I have and nothing. Not sure if the photos are fooling me or is there environmental damage on the coin? Another thing I've noticed is what appears to be a gouge coming off the hair curls going up into Morgans initial on the neck. Is it just the picture or is there really something there? Also check on the rev. for doubling on STA of states and let me know.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The more I look at the coin, the more I think something happened to the coin and it is a normal coin. Looks like some type of chemical/water damage causing the circles. Just happened within the 8's making an optical illusion. Also looks like someone took a Brillo pad to it. Hope the 'court appearance' was not too stressful. Thanks for taking the time to inspect.  |
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