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I Have An Gold Diocletian Coin

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 Posted 04/14/2020  08:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diocletian coin to your friends list
Has 5,6 grams and is 24 k gold
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This is the reverse
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 Posted 04/14/2020  08:45 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
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 Posted 04/14/2020  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Looks like a jeweler's copy, in good gold.
Best test at this stage is XRF, looking for trace elements, not gold.
The Romans were not able to refine their gold much beyond about 95% pure.
The surface texture on all parts of the coin is the same, no variation. That makes it sus to my eye.

Does it have an independently provable provenance?


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'Diocletian aureus'
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 Posted 04/14/2020  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diocletian coin to your friends list
Belive me that I don't know to many things about coins.i just found it and I was thinking that maybe is an authentic coin.so I supose that is worthing only the value of the gold?
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 Posted 04/14/2020  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
I don't think it is 24K gold
How are you able to determine ?
Thirty years ago I had some fun in a jewelry class nearby
They had some modest casting equipment for the full time students who graduated from the school
While everyone else in the class was sawing small pieces of plate silver to make 'trinkets' I was eyeing the kilns and the acetylene torch etc
I made a few coin castings (mostly silver) to mount or solder onto rings which I also cast
Gold was relatively inexpensive back then ($275 oz)
I got bold enough to try my hand
Alloyed gold comes out of the investment with a surface oxidation that you need to polish away
That is what I am seeing on your pic
Someone did the cursory 'buff' but you can still see some oxidation in the detail (portrait & legend) from the silver & copper in the alloy
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 Posted 04/14/2020  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iulius to your friends list
The truth is that the coin is not authentic, but it is somehow beautiful
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 Posted 04/14/2020  5:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add diocletian coin to your friends list
Thank you for youre advices,and youre opinion
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 Posted 04/14/2020  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
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It looks like it's a denaius that has been gold plated.
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 Posted 04/14/2020  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list
I believe the reverse is Jupiter holding victory on a globe. I don't believe an Aureus was struck with that type of reverse.
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 Posted 04/15/2020  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
There is a curious 'lump' on the reverse rim at 7 o'clock, which suggests to me that it may have been cast.
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 Posted 04/16/2020  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list

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I believe the reverse is Jupiter holding victory on a globe. I don't believe an Aureus was struck with that type of reverse.


The reverse is Emperor seated holding victory on globe and parazonium and though the coin that started this topic is not genuine, real ones do exist-- RIC Vii Cyzicus 286...though it is an exceptionally rare type.
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Victor, I really need to check my eyes cuz I see no wings on that reverse.
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 Posted 04/17/2020  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list

They are not well defined (part of being a poor casting) but I have circled the wings in the pic below.




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 Posted 04/17/2020  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iulius to your friends list
True, there is such a coin and because it is unique - it is subject to forgery
https://ikmk.smb.museum/object?lang=en&id=18225816
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