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You Vs NGC : 1885 Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 07/18/2020  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
A soft strike. Very clean cheek, all original surfaces. I think this one could go MS-65 even with the soft details.
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 Posted 07/18/2020  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wideglide to your friends list
I can't see it much better than EF-45 to AU-50.
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 Posted 07/18/2020  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I'm at MS-62.
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 Posted 07/18/2020  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list
Idk how this coin could grade less then mintstate with full luster.
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 Posted 07/18/2020  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newbie1877 to your friends list
AU details cleaned?
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 Posted 07/19/2020  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
Definitely dipped but I suspect they let this one slide by into an AU-58 holder.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list
From these photos, no higher than AU50. Not a coin I would want to own. Possibly dipped and possibly cleaned.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  10:37 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Not often we see guesses ranging from XF-40 cleaned to MS-65 original, and virtually everything in between. Very curious to see what NGC said.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
looks cleaned but ill say AU-58 could just be the photos though
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 Posted 07/19/2020  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list

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Not often we see guesses ranging from XF-40 cleaned to MS-65 original, and virtually everything in between. Very curious to see what NGC said.


That's why I posted it, because I knew it would be an interesting one.


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A soft strike. Very clean cheek, all original surfaces. I think this one could go MS-65 even with the soft details.


Well done IndianGoldEagle and others who were close.

NGC graded it MS65. I was really confused when I saw it, but I presume it is just a weak strike. These weak strikes are the hardest to grade in my opinion, because it really does just look AU58 or less to me. So how are we able to tell the high grade soft strikes? Is it the frostiness? The flat sheen of the fields?

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 Posted 07/19/2020  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list

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. So how are we able to tell the high grade soft strikes? Is it the frostiness? The flat sheen of the fields?


With MS coins I often don't look at strike, I look to see if the luster is broken or not, luster being the top layer of a coins surface means that a coins design can't be worn down before the luster above it worn away.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
IGE, you're my hero!
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 Posted 07/19/2020  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
the 85(P) are typically above average in strike. this one is AVG- for strike. eye appeal is not the best. luster broken across cheek. I would have never put this in the 65 maybe AU55
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 Posted 07/19/2020  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list
I think what appears to be broken luster is just a lighting issue.
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 Posted 07/19/2020  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Well done, IGE! Definitely on the low end for eye appeal. Probably would have been easier having the coin in hand under a loupe to assess the surfaces.
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