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Pillar of the Community
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GRADE: 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Hmm, either the lack of mint luster or the scratch , or both . 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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MS65 would have worked for me. I like the toning (assuming the photos have captured the coin's appearance accurately). Is that a die crack on the reverse--ST in STATES? What do you think the linear feature is running through Jefferson's hair (wig)--die crack, or scratch?
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64? jeez, 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
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i had it at MS64FS. broken luster across the jaw, highest points of the hair and lapel keep this one out of the MS65 box imo. nice steps
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks everyone for the posts, this grade taught me a lot. That scratch is not incuse which is surprising as I too thought it was a staple scratch, I will confirm under a 10X objective using a system Ray built for me specific for variety shooting and stacking. Also, the die crack on US, I will also check, as I did not even notice that, does anyone think the MM has action there?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Too, what's that feature between the E and T on WE TRUST--stain? Other?
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Wow, @ijn1944! I think you helped identify what the scratch may be. It may be a piece of string, not a scratch, possibly a die crack. That white line is elevated, not incuse, it breaks of into two like a Y around 2 o clock from the ear. The spot between E and T is possibly the end of the string and whatever debris it is. If you follow the dot and the white line, it is either a die crack of a piece of material in the nickel itself. How do you crack open a slab, I'm going to take this under a macrophoto set up. This is getting cool!
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So I sent the coin images to an expert coin error numismatist and coin dealer and he deducted the die crack is there starting on the head and moving backwards. But he also said said the hole on the rim was actually an O from the Monticello on the reverse and the line faint is the base of the Monticello, due to a die clash. Thoughts?
Edited by shantiom 12/23/2020 9:36 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Before I saw the label I had the coin at -64 or -65. But definitely a FS.
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United States
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If the obv "scratch" is raised, it's from a die crack and does not subtract from the grade. As for a hole on the rim, I don't see what you are referring to. "Buy the coin not the holder" in this case means if you paid MS64 money you got it at a good price. The orange peel of this coin's late die state is not optimal, but it does not impact the grade.
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The O is between wE and Trust. Thank you for the feedback and I did pay MS 64 money, maybe less. Die clash?
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Is the "o" raised? Just looks like a toning spot to me
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The overlay shows that where your "o" is would be either the outside step of the building or maybe the mintmark? Could the D look like an o after a clash...idk...? But I can't see it as a letter "o" from the devise MONTICELLO...? Just doesn't seem to match up...? http://www.maddieclashes.com/wp-con...40137819.jpgsmat
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