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1878-S T$1 Trade Dollar

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 Posted 12/23/2020  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list
Lots of field scratches and some rubs from possible wear - AU58
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 Posted 12/23/2020  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list

Luster is definitely diminished in the fields. Many small marks and faint hairlines but not enough to "detail" the coin. AU-58.
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 Posted 12/23/2020  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
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 Posted 12/24/2020  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
I'm with @Coinfrog here, AU-55, maybe AU-58. There is one heavy contact mark on the obverse, from Liberty's right elbow south through her lap. It has a great strike and nice eye appeal.
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 Posted 12/24/2020  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Trade dollars often suffer from weak strikes due to reduced die pressure accomplished by placing the dies far apart. This appears at least ms63 to me.
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 Posted 12/24/2020  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
if this comes back at AU58 its a really nice AU58
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 Posted 12/28/2020  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
This one came in. I was hoping this one was better. Might have to send it back although there are many things I like about this coin. Thoughts? Thanks!

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 Posted 12/28/2020  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Ouch. Send that packing.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
AU Details Harshly Cleaned. The seller did a nice job of hiding the cleaning with the photos.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I am not sure about harshly cleaned. The scratches are limited to the fields and not the devices. Both sides exhibit cartwheel luster. Both sides exhibit prooflike fields. The scratches behind liberty are deep and my main concern.
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 Posted 12/28/2020  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
Definitely looks MS IMO, but I can't tell if those hairlines are from cleaning or not from the pics. The left reverse field in particular looks quite suspicious based off the haloing of the devices.

At the very least the scratches you mentioned behind liberty may details it.

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 Posted 12/28/2020  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Tough to judge, but based on the way a majority of the hairlines maintain a space from the devices (the halo that Adam mentioned), would suggest post strike, not die scratches. These also reflect light differently than areas absent of these hairlines.

May also just be the lighting, but obverse K12-K1 (head to shoulders and fields immediately surrounding) look altered, possibly polished? Could just be lighting.

Im calling AU58 Details.
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 Posted 12/29/2020  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
the original photo lighting was hiding many of those scratches. I have to add a details designation for what appears to be a cleaning and that fairly significant scratch. I agree with your strike assessment but if I was expecting a straight grade coin and got this I would have to send it back.
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 Posted 12/29/2020  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
The obverse scratch (behind the head and left arm) and the reverse gouge (directly below the second "A" of AMERICA) look deep and fairly recent. I wonder if these are scratches from staples?
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 Posted 01/01/2021  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list
This is a cleaned coin. The hairlines stop short of the devices meaning they are not die polishing marks. Having said that, it's a nice AU details.
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