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Probable Struck-Thru Cloth 1949 Nickel

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 Posted 01/30/2021  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
It weighs a normal 5 grams.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
looks like the coin got an acid bath while it sat reverse-down on a paper towel or cloth
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 Posted 01/30/2021  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
After UNUM Looks interesting. But not part of the design for a nickel. Struck through cloth doesn't leave the devices that sharp:
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Opposite side not affected.

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 Posted 01/30/2021  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
@nick10's thought is an interesting one.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
Here is a interesting thought. Could it be a planchet error like an annealing flaw that happened before strike? Of course, nick10 could also be right.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
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 Posted 01/30/2021  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list
maybe before an acid bath it weighed 5.1 gr
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Thats a good one, coop , good image , yeah, I'm not sure why it looks off for a struck-thru cloth?
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 Posted 01/30/2021  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numiscrat to your friends list
with nick10.

"5 grams" is too imprecise to say much. If we are talking plus or minus a gram for the lack of precision of the scale, that is ~20% material loss! Even at plus or minus a tenth of a gram, I would not be confident in ruling out an acid bath. If the acid attack were uneven, 0.1g of material loss on such a small surface area might look pretty obvious. While it isn't with US coinage metals/alloys, I have experience measuring metal loss due to corrosion or intentional etches prior to other surface treatments. Visible changes can be difficult to measure with a $2000 analytical balance, even with measuring test coupons which were weighed before and after the damage occurred. What chances do we have at a definitive conclusion when the exact initial mass is not known, and the final mass is measured with something like a $20 consumer model scale like I have at home?

If the OP had reported a mass of 3.5 grams, we might take that as evidence of material removal, because that is so far outside the expected range, even allowing for mint tolerances. But, this is one of those cases when our methods of observation and measurement tools are not always capable of proving something in the negative. I am not saying that the coin has seen an acid bath, I am just saying that the weight cannot disprove that. The pattern on the back puzzles me, but the irregularities on the obverse looks much more random. I think nick10 has an interesting and plausible hypothesis.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
I think @nick10 is spot on. The second photo (the angled obverse pic) is interesting. It appears that there is pitting on the edge. That almost certainly would necessitate submersion in dilute acids. The pitting reflects the differing reactivity of Ni and Cu to the acid. My bet? Dilute Hydrochloric or Sulfuric acid.

Where was the coin found? If it came from Louisiana or Texas, the best guess would be either a Katrina coin or a Harvey coin. Many coins were commercially acid-washed and returned to circulation after being submerged in the toxic soup caused by hurricane flooding from these storms.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
I picked up this nickel in Galesburg, MI at an antique mall from a coin dealer several years back. When I first saw it, I was thinking it looked like a struck-thru cloth error. It was in a bowl of mixed coins for a set price.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
It's not a struck through cloth error, in my judgement. It was most likely etched by a piece of cloth soaked in acid.
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 Posted 01/30/2021  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
Hey Mikediamond, thanks for that great possibility of what this is. As my username implies, this is a legit what-is-it, error/pmd style. Something I never thought of. Lol, cloth was still involved apparently...
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 Posted 01/30/2021  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list
Hey, mrwhatisit, you might want to Google Mike Diamond's name.

https://www.coinworld.com/authors/m...diamond.html
http://www.error-ref.com/about-the-authors/


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 Posted 01/30/2021  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list
I do use error-ref.com often when I need it.
This is one of the strangest oddities on a coin I have ever seen, mint-made or not.
Now it also makes me wonder who would have wanted to do this?
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