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1900 IHC Oddity / Expertise, If You Please?

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 Posted 03/24/2021  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list
I've never read anything published by J.K. Rowling (but I did take the kid to see one of the movies...)
Maybe it's better trying to explain what it isn't:
It isn't a Late Stage Capped Die error (looks nothing like one)
It isn't the product of a some mindless pounding with a piece of Pipe (or Rod) and a Hammer
If anyone can explain how areas of the obverse denticles, and the L on the ribbon (Longacre didn't place it there because he ran out of room elsewhere for it), which were struck through *something*, as Post Mintage Damage: I'm all ears
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 Posted 03/24/2021  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
If an unbiased, somewhat-expert review is desired the OP could send the coin to ANACS and see if they call it an error. Or, we could indulge in "yes it is, no it isn't" until everyone gets tired.

We have seen many weird coin distortions on CCF and sometimes consensus doesn't happen. These situations usually involve common, low-value coins for which intentional damage would not represent a significant monetary loss.

In any case, everyone is welcome to their opinion!
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 Posted 03/26/2021  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I believe ANACS or other TPGs would just inquire to other experts. I would put out a word to Rick Snow, Chris Pilliod, Ken Potter, Mike Ellis or Bill Fivaz. I think one of them may give the best answer to what the heck is going on with this coin.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list
Here's one that's struck through a glob of grease on the obverse. The area above LIBERTY, which is the bottoms of all the feathers, is detailed but depressed into the planchet. There's also an area in front of the nose which is the clincher for this type of error.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
The OP's coin was clearly not Struck Through Grease, which wouldn't cause the widening of the letters and numbers.
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 Posted 03/28/2021  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list
So, what's your explanation for it?
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 Posted 03/28/2021  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
I gave my explanation about 15 posts ago. It's not a mint error.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list
Unfortunately, your explanation is not based on Facts (everyone has the right to their own opinion, but not their own facts)
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That's why I prefaced my explanation by saying it was my guess. On the other hand, it's a fact that a coin Struck Through Grease will not have widening of the devices.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list
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 Posted 03/29/2021  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
There are an infinite amount if ways that a coin can get damaged outside of the mint, but only a finite number of ways that coins have been minted improperly. the expectation that one of us pinpoint the exact source of damage is frankly a little ridiculous.

When I and many others look at a coin to diagnose it, we dont diagnose that it is damage(unless its a very common case like a Dryer Coin), we diagnose that it is not an error, and therefore deduce that it's damaged because there is no other explanation.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list

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it's a fact that a coin Struck Through Grease will not have widening of the devices.

Quoting @coop -
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 Posted 03/29/2021  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
Rothery, the devices will appear to be wider, but they will not actually be wider. the devices at their widest point on a normal coin are still not nearly as wide as they are on this coin. In the images provided with the text, you will see the widening is only to the extent of the thickness of the base of the devices
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 Posted 03/29/2021  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list

Quote:
the devices will appear to be wider, but they will not actually be wider.

Yeah, I hate first appearances too!


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If you look at the images provided with the text,

You should read the posts - I was one of the first that commented on this not being PMD (still don't know if I'm wrong)



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 Posted 03/30/2021  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list
"When I and many others look at a coin to diagnose it, we dont diagnose that it is damage(unless its a very common case like a Dryer Coin), we diagnose that it is not an error, and therefore deduce that it's damaged because there is no other explanation."

Probably because that you're not aware other, realitic explanation exists
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