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1778-1928 Cook Half Dollar Help Please

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 Posted 09/16/2021  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wiquiocho to your friends list

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 Posted 09/16/2021  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wiquiocho to your friends list
Did I make an amateur mistake by going with conservation? According to them there was some kind of residue that made the surface appearance grainy. But I had no idea that it would alter the surface look so dramatically. I'm afraid it may have lost its unique look and possibly lowered its value #128542;
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 Posted 09/16/2021  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list
I can't say whether the cost of the conservation was worth it in terms of the final price if/when you sell it. However, future prospective buyers are not searching for a coin with a "unique" look, especially if that uniqueness is actually some kind of residue.
Personally, if my only choices were between an AU coin that looked off, had environmental damage, and was cleaned vs. a straightforward AU-cleaned coin that doesn't look off, I would choose the latter.
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 Posted 09/16/2021  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
So, when you submit a coin for conservation, you are automatically agreeing to have it graded?
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Well first I had been informed via e mail that my coin was eligible for NGC conservation due to residue and when arrived at NGC conservation a team of experts would determine whether the coin would benefit from being cleaned or if there would be risk of damaging it. After I approved the cleaning through a simple reply to the email saying "yes" I pretty much left the outcome in the hands of the Conservation experts. Ultimately they removed the residue and as a result my coin could only receive at the most an AU DETAILS rating because they had cleaned it. After it was cleaned I believe it automatically goes back to NGC for grading which would automatically result in an AU xxxx - CLEANED grade. Correct me if I'm wrong on this
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 Posted 09/16/2021  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Well, that seems rather self-serving. Does anyone know whether a NGC-conserved coin always receives a details grade?
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Yes I agree haha. Had I known that conservation meant an automatic AU grade I wouldn't have done it and would've take a risk in hopes of an MS graded coin. #128533;
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 Posted 09/16/2021  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Someone out there must have some insight into this question.
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Does anyone know whether a NGC-conserved coin always receives a details grade?

In my personal experience, it is not automatic. I have had coins that were conserved come back with grades of MS and PF without any reference to "Details."

Coins receive the "Details" label if they have surface issues independent of NGC conservation efforts.


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 Posted 09/17/2021  10:21 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Better question .
Why make NCS rich ?
Most of the stuff they do to your
Coin when conserving it is easily
done yourself , IF you know what you are doing .
One example always soak any thing not obviously
NEW ( ie Gem Mint State , Gem Proof , or pleasing toning )
in either pure acetone or KOIN SOLV if you can find it .
NO rubbing or wire brushes!
The methods the conservers use are hardly proprietary!
Anyone can learn how to properly conserve coins for pennies!
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Honestly. I believe this should've gotten a higher grade. Comments?
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 Posted 09/20/2021  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list

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Honestly. I believe this should've gotten a higher grade. Comments?

I'm not sure why you believe the coin is under-graded. Your latest images clearly show wear/metal loss. A coin can't be accurately called "mint state" if it exhibits wear.


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 Posted 09/21/2021  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
with commems. There is obvious metal loss/wear visible on the coin and an AU grade is the correct technical judgment of the circulated state.
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 Posted 09/21/2021  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wiquiocho to your friends list
I am a student amongst masters. I now see what you mean. I hope one day my eyes are as sharp, my knowledge is vast, and my words are spoken with the confidence which can only be acquired through years of experience. As always fellas I thank you for your wisdom and speedy replies. Happy hunting to us all!
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@Wiquiocho: Happy to help! I like your long-term outlook on how to be a better collector - experienced-based knowledge can be a powerful tool and make collecting much more rewarding!

Happy hunting to you as well!


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