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Wondering If This Is A Variety? Or A Joke?

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 Posted 05/06/2021  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Nickelsguy & all others

how long do you estimate for "real" Hats to show up from PRoC?
Just kidding... am I ?. If these sell well, they will come.....
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 Posted 05/06/2021  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Maybe in future years they will make the entire uniform? I'm waiting for the belt and boots...
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 Posted 05/07/2021  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list

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Maybe in future years they will make the entire uniform? I'm waiting for the belt and boots.


They already have the whole Mountie with last year's sculpture coin.


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 Posted 05/07/2021  03:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Not a coin although it may have legal status as such.
More like fantasy exonumia.
RCM would never make this sort of Mint product, unless they knew they were able to sell it for a profit. To me, somewhat akin to decorative art fine bone China, in the same class as Royal Doulton fine bone Chinaware figurines.

RCM is becoming more and more like the failed Franklin private Mint.
They are killing their own goose that laid the golden egg.

I have a small solid sterling silver collection. It it is a hallmarked six inch high cast and carved solid silver reindeer stag - it did not come from the RCM. Quite heavy, it weighs a few ounces. Has nothing to do with numisamtics, RCM collector products are trending in the same direction.
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 Posted 05/07/2021  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
I'm fine with the RCM producing these items, I just wish they weren't promoted as coins. I agree with AlexA (comment above), items such as this one should be presented separately from the Mint's closer-to-reality coins.

IMO, nearly all modern non-circulating legal tender (NCLT) coins are really medals with symbolic (but otherwise meaningless) denominations on them. For example, how does a denomination of $1.00 make sense for a coin with ~3/4 of an ounce of silver? The "coin's" intrinsic value is higher than its face value and its issue price is even higher! Clearly not a coin using the traditional definition, but I still collect them due to their link to Canada's era of circulating silver coins.




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 Posted 05/07/2021  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I agree with AlexA (comment above), items such as this one should be presented separately from the Mint's closer-to-reality coins.
I agree with this as well.

Maybe these sales keep the lights on and doors open so they can make the "real coins," but they could at least alter their marketing a bit.
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 Posted 05/08/2021  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Makes me think of that old TV show Candid Camara...I would love to make a video of trying to purschase something using this "coin"
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 Posted 05/08/2021  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
Lets go get a PCGS graded hat.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vonigohcr to your friends list

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My only wish is they separate this other stuff out on their website rather than labelling everything a coin.

The French Mint - https://www.monnaiedeparis.fr/en/sh...ive-castings do a good job of selling non-coin products. Available on their site but without legal tender attribution.

From models of RCMP, Hats, Starship Enterprise models, Grizzly Bears, Carousels... It is ridiculous what is being pumped out of the mint as NCLT. Don't misunderstand... I think these objects should exist... there clearly is a market for them... I just don't believe they should have a denomination and the classification of Legal Tender regardless of how useable or unusable they are for cash transactions... Clearly nobody is going to use a $100 gold coin that actually cost over $1,000 to purchase $100 of goods & services but hats, enterprises and carousels go from ridiculous to asinine.
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 Posted 05/10/2021  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Try selling overpriced proof silver NCLT mint product back to coin dealers, and all you will get is the silver value.
I know.
I have tried.
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 Posted 05/11/2021  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list

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Try selling overpriced proof silver NCLT mint product back to coin dealers, and all you will get is the silver value.
I know.
I have tried.


Depends on what you are selling, if there is demand for the coin. If it is a "hot" coin like the first UFO, first Pysanka, first MC Renewed Silver Dollar, or more recently coins that sold out rapidly like the Multilayer coin or 5 oz Avro Arrow, dealers will happily buy them from you.

But if the coins are from 10,20,30, years when mintages are 10,000, 15,000, 20,000+, dealers are going to pay you bullion because the mint made too many of them and there is not enough demand for them.

Businesses are not charities, they are out to make money so there is no point in buying coins that will just sit on the shelf.
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 Posted 02/17/2022  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add slarti42 to your friends list
there are some people who will collect these
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 Posted 02/17/2022  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Check captainrich's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add captainrich to your friends list

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Not a coin although it may have legal status as such.


Waitress: "Hey boss, the guy at table six wants to pay for his meal with a toy hat."
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 Posted 02/22/2022  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockfish to your friends list
I've got one. I like it a lot. Definitely one of the weirder things in my collection. But I also like the Murano glass Xmas issues, so there you go. IMO enjoying these kind of "non coin" issues is not really any more eccentric than obsessing over the hoof through 6 varietal of the 1946 50 cent or resubmitting your 1947 ML dollar to ICCS because you are convinced that the MS 63 designation should be an MS 64. At the end of the day, it's all just a hobby. Chacun a son gout, n'est pas?
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 Posted 02/22/2022  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list
Things like this are quaint and I can see why some are interested in acquiring them. However, as others have mentioned, I believe calling them "coins" is a huge stretch and giving them legal tender status is downright ridiculous.

I'll admit right up front I'm old and a bit stuck in my ways . Heck, I even had a bit of an issue with the concave baseball, basketball and Apollo 11 U.S. modern commemorative issues, but those seem pretty darn conventional compared to a lot of the RCM issues.
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