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1923 Silver Peace Dollar Counterfeit. Thank You CCF!

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 Posted 05/18/2021  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list
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 Posted 05/18/2021  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
In Canada you cannot own a counterfeit, but here in the States is OK. You can stamp "copy" on them if you want, but it is not required unless you have a business making copies of coins. As has been suggested, keeping them for educational purposes/examples is a good thing.
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 Posted 05/18/2021  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
I would take it if it was for the right price. It is a nice coin and some of the old counterfeits are worth more than the original coin. That is if you can identify them and who made them. But keep them anyway for educational purposes.
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 Posted 05/19/2021  02:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Don't look like contemporary counterfeits, more like some of the recent Chinese counterfeits in which case they were made after 1973 and although you may be able ton own them, it would be illegal to sell them as unmarked they would be in violation of the HPA. Under the HPA you couldn't even sell them as counterfeits without marking them.
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 Posted 05/19/2021  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Minnimarine to your friends list
I suppose I could keep them. Definitely got my eyes open now. Didnt think I would ever see one, and if I did I wouldnt know. At least he was only out of $40 and not $100 plus. Funny that's what his asking price was. I dont think I would have known any of this stuff if I didnt become a member here. Now I pick up books, watch programs, read alot in this forum, and always searching the web. The last few posts on counterfeit had me paying attention. Actually feels pretty good that I caught it before I was bamboozled. I am gonna keep them. Dont like them, but for educational use. I'm sure for the right price you would mean free? It's illegal to sell lol. Stay vigilant because this happened in the Heartland.
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 Posted 05/19/2021  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

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I'm sure for the right price you would mean free? It's illegal to sell lol.


As stated upthread, it's not, and even if it was, there's a difference between letter of the law and spirit of the law. There's a difference between you knowingly selling a fake to someone who doesn't know, and you agreeing to sell a fake to someone who A) knows it's fake B) You believe will be a good faith actor with it and not misuse it.
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 Posted 05/19/2021  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I have to agree with Grape. I do not see anyone being prosecuted for a good faith transactions. Otherwise, a lot of black cabinet collectors would knee deep in heartache.
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 Posted 05/20/2021  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Minnimarine to your friends list
What about state law? Under Illinois 720 ILCS 5/ Criminal Code I cant find anything about owning them. I sure dont like messing with thing like that when I don't know the rules, laws, or business.
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 Posted 05/22/2021  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IsThisAnything to your friends list
I work with a lot of cash and the first thing you learn about counterfeits is that there are two types, the over confident and the under confident. The under confident counterfeiters always try to hide their mistakes by making their currency look worn and heavily circulated, but it always makes me laugh because that never works. Once you're educated, such pieces come out if the wallet just screaming at you. I'm not a collector of Morgan's yet, but this is a great story.
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 Posted 05/22/2021  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Minnimarine to your friends list
Glad to share it with you all. Just want to thank this forum for there posts on counterfeits, and reminding me to pay attention. Figured I would do as the rest and post these coins to give the alert. Really if it wasnt for the couple past posts on the other coins be hard to say if I caught them or not.
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 Posted 05/22/2021  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Check nss-52's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add nss-52 to your friends list
Don't try to sell them on ebay.
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 Posted 06/07/2021  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Minnimarine to your friends list
No I will not be selling it on ebay or anything.
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 Posted 06/07/2021  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
I knew a dealer who kept half a dozen counterfeit dollars around for people to handle. The first thing you notice, if you've handled a lot of dollars, is how light they feel. You don't need a scale.
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 Posted 06/07/2021  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nells250 to your friends list
IsThisAnything - is wet ink coming off on your hands also a possible clue?

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