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NGC Sold To An Investment Firm

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 Posted 07/02/2021  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Is this the Blackstone were talking about?
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One of the things I liked about NGC was they were privately held as it gave us customers a fighting chance as priorities were balanced. The customer is about to experience a downgrade. Blackstone's list of priorities (balance sheet and portfolio management) will slide the customer far down the list. In stating in the article that accelerating CCG growth is their goal, I take that to mean their focus isn't on improving things that matter to a lot of us, like consistency and accuracy of grading. Their recourses will be aimed elsewhere to make the balance sheet prettier.

C'mon ANACS. You guys haven't had an opportunity this golden in a looooooong time.

That being said, if I was Salzberg and Eichenbaum and just woke up with a 9-10 digit bump in my bank account, I wouldn't really care too much about the whining of others. They just got paid! I have to appreciate the capitalism in action on their end too. Well done, guys.
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 Posted 07/02/2021  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
In order for ANACS to really come on, they would need to change holder design and most importantly get CAC to begin stickering the new holders. But the latter is probably political and could be personality dependent.
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 Posted 07/02/2021  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Uh-oh.
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 Posted 07/02/2021  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cdncoins to your friends list
PCGS parent was sold to private equity or "investors group" as well. These things could be good or bad. Hopefully they are smart enough to make improvements without wrecking the business.
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 Posted 07/02/2021  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
Go on the NGC forum.
There is a letter from Mark Salzburg and Blackstone already have their name on the heading.
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 Posted 07/02/2021  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Pure speculation follows.

Don't miss the list of other participants in the buyout. The list includes several prominent sports owners, sports collectibles companies, and agents for athletes and music industry personnel. IMHO, part of this deal is expanding NGC's presence in the broader collectibles market. As long as it doesn't dilute the quality of its coin grading services, that may not be a bad thing. This may also be a step toward taking the resulting company public.

Thoughts?
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 Posted 07/02/2021  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The new owners could end up trying to expand the business against their competitors.
Let's hope that doesn't lead to more pressure being placed on the graders who actually do the work, to come up with a tendency for more 'favorable' grades, and thus have a larger volume of 'happier' customers.

Diluting the quality of their work will also dilute the reputation of NGC.

That is what happened to Mercedes-Benz. I know: I have been around this brand for about 30 years.
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 Posted 07/03/2021  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I sincerely hope the ANA dumps them the grading company of choice with this announcement. I'm not too hopeful on that either.
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I'm not aware of anything controversial about them.


Basically, they're buying up low price affordable housing and trying to buy up entire neighborhoods and then turn around in rent those properties back to people in an effort to create a renting class in inner cities and high demand areas.

This comment on NGC's Press Release on their Instagram sums up my thoughts nicely.
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 Posted 07/03/2021  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Think non-fungible as one of the end goals.
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Basically, they're buying up low price affordable housing and trying to buy up entire neighborhoods and then turn around in rent those properties back to people in an effort to create a renting class in inner cities and high demand areas.

This is called block-busting and is illegal.
I see no analogy.

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This is called block-busting and is illegal.


That would be my point.


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I see no analogy


Buying up houses at high prices and forcing people to rent. Making prices of slabbed coins unaffordable and forcing people to rent the coins instead. The guy was making a sarcastic joke.
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Taking together all of the above posts I feel that
any owner of a grading company that has no passion for numismatics, and instead is only motivated to make a profit
in not the owner of a grading company that collectors should send their coins to.

That is not the reason for which NGC was originally set up.
Sadly, I suspect that NGC will now slowly fade away from the numismatic scene.
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I know one thing , NGC turn around times are
Very lengthy and they are crying for graders !
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