Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsJoin Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1959-D Lincoln Memorial Cent You Vs PCGS

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page Previous Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 34 / Views: 3,876Next Topic Page 3 of 3
Pillar of the Community
United States
9793 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm thinking MS67+ RD although MS68RD won't surprise me either, anything less than MS67 would. Nice coin Grape!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Pillar of the Community
United States
1217 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Check HumblePie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add HumblePie to your friends list
Beautiful Cent, I really like the Reverse.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
8938 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Alright, you will all get a kick out of this

PCGS graded this MS-64

No, that's not a joke. This isn't PCGS TrueView trickery, this is exactly how the coin looks in hand. I was completely and totally floored when I saw this come back as a 64. My only guess is that the graders mistook the thin shallow die scratches as hairlines and dropped the grade.
Pillar of the Community
United States
9793 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
WOW that is a travesty, and explains how graders that only spend an average of 2-10 seconds per side per coin, miss things so often. I'd be on the phone to them wanting this to be reviewed.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
8938 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Travesty is one word! But seriously, this was almost hilariously bad by them. I was half tempted to call and complain, or bust it out and send it back, but it's almost better to have it in this slab just so I can point it out!
Pillar of the Community
United States
7074 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Wow 64 did they put it at BN for color...
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
8938 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

Quote:
did they put it at BN for color...


MS64YGF
Pillar of the Community
United States
3663 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2021  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Seriously?

I'll gladly take a full roll of those PCGS "64" coins, please. Forget them not being in the ballpark. They aren't even in the time zone.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
8938 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2021  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

Quote:
Seriously?


As soon as I saw you and WestCoin comment I had a small giggle fit. I'm used to undergrading from PCGS and overgrading from NGC, but THIS, now this was undergrading to a new level.

Pillar of the Community
United States
3663 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2021  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
PCGS tries to make up for undergrading U.S. coins by ridiculously overgrading Canadian coins. I can't tell you how many VF Canadian and Maritime coins I have seen PCGS slab high EF to mid-AU.
Pillar of the Community
United States
2869 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2021  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list

Quote:
forget them not being in the ballpark. They aren't even in the time zone.

They are not in the year. That's crazy. That coin would have been ms-68rd if I was the grader.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
8938 Posts
 Posted 07/11/2021  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list

Quote:
PCGS tries to make up for undergrading U.S. coins by ridiculously overgrading Canadian coins. I can't tell you how many VF Canadian and Maritime coins I have seen PCGS slab high EF to mid-AU.


OH YEAH. I love those. I can't grade Canadian coins for crap, but I'm still better than them.


Quote:
They are not in the year. That's crazy. That coin would have been ms-68rd if I was the grader.


I certainly feel 67 would have been fair, I doubt the plus, they're too stingy.
Valued Member
United States
318 Posts
 Posted 07/12/2021  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikem007 to your friends list
At least you got a nice photo from them. They did a good job on that.
Pillar of the Community
United States
9793 Posts
 Posted 07/12/2021  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Grape thought I'd fix the old photos in my post on a 1921 Morgan from the era right after ANACS started tightening up grades, I sent in around 40 coins at a local show in Fort Worth to be graded, most were nice VAMs and 8 TF dollars. This one I was so sure would come back at MS64+ or better yet...

http://goccf.com/t/108179

So all the companies do it, and but you PCGS Lincoln Cent is not what I would expect from them and their cost of submissions. At least I only paid $10+ shipping one way to get... well you get the idea. LOL
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013!
ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector.

See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
Bedrock of the Community
United States
19968 Posts
 Posted 07/13/2021  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Not sure how I missed this thread.

66RD

Have to say I don't know what PCGS didn't like about it. Must be the eye appeal doesn't match what we can see in the pictures.
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Page 3 of 3   Previous TopicReplies: 34 / Views: 3,876Next Topic Page 3 of 3
First Page Previous Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to rattle this change. Forums