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He Gave Me A Bag Of World Coins

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 Posted 07/13/2021  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lunch Money to your friends list
There is a token in the first photo that looks a little like a gold coin and says that it is, but is clearly not. It is not marked as a copy, though.

Also, has anyone heard of the "Victory Liberty Loan"? There is some kind of tag in the last photo that notes it is made from a captured German cannon.
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 Posted 07/13/2021  1:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lunch Money to your friends list
Here are the rest of the photos from the bag of money. Towards the end, you will see the "token" that I referenced earlier. It turned out to be a Norse medal from 1925, and there are 2 of them! I was not familiar with those previously, so that was pretty exciting.


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 Posted 07/13/2021  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
I to like Encased Coins. I like the half Penny's. The British and Australian ones are my favorites. Great haul!
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 Posted 07/13/2021  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captainmandrake1 to your friends list
The Viking one might be this one: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ex...ia72052.html
I think that one is pretty rare, but please confirm with others as I'm just a newbie.
Nice finds!
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 Posted 07/13/2021  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
Lunch Money Well the price was certainly right.

The California gold $10 token without copy is a common replica from the 1950s or an insanely valuable original. The replicas are of course not gold and easy to spot by weight.

You also have two of the older type Swiss 5 francs dated 1923. They need to be inspected to determine if they are genuine or Numismatic Forgeries. They are worth upward of $50 each if genuine. Most that you see today are not genuine. Originals tended to hit the melting pot after the reduction in size made in 1931 so the large number originally minted (11 million) can be very misleading. Those two are the best in the group based on a very quick look at the batch. Of course I have an extensive collection of Swiss coinage which was a childhood thing.

What I found surprising was the number of silver coins included in a free group. The octagonal Norse American Commemorative is a particularly nice find.

If the fellow is a neighbor, particularly if you actually know him and he has a grandson interested in coins, I hope you use your windfall to show him gratitude as well if you choose to sell any of the better items. Of course if the guy is a Bill Gates type never mind.
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 Posted 07/13/2021  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
Yes, it looks like LOTS of pocket change from EUropean vacations.
Many of those '50s-60s issues (Italian aluminum and stainless and the French Mariannes) are unsellable unless one of the scarcer dates in high grade ... Likewise most of the small denomination Scandinavian (though I have moved AU examples of tougher dates in '50s from Norway and Denmark on ebay)

I saw a 1950s British Honduras that looked to be in high grade, which is definitely sellable, maybe the NZ half penny, and almost everything George VI from Hong Kong you will find some kind of market on ebay. I have sold even low grades in year sets or date runs.

As always ... do your research.
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 Posted 07/13/2021  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
I see a couple of Norway 1 krone silver. Those fetch a decent premium even for the common ones. Worn Canadian silver too.
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 Posted 07/13/2021  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lunch Money to your friends list
I was also pretty surprised to see the silver. And this was his "give to the neighbor" pile! I wonder what the coins for his grandson were.
I'd like to find out if the Swiss 5 francs and the Norse Commemmoratives are real. I haven't weighed them yet, but they do have the heft and look of silver.
I'm not really planning to sell any of these, so while the financial piece is always really interesting, but not critical at the moment. In fact, I feel inspired to keep them and maybe use them as the start to a few new 20th century type sets.
The paper money may be a different story though. It's never been that interesting to me.
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 Posted 07/13/2021  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I would buy that person at least breakfast and coffee for his generosity.
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 Posted 07/13/2021  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
Norse medal is nice!

Decent amount of silver in there too!
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 Posted 07/14/2021  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list
I see **2** Norse American medals... one looks like some sort of plated brass, so perhaps a replica? The other, though, looks like old-toned silver - I would bet original. The best thing here.

The (2) 1923 Swiss 5Fr are genuine, one being nicer than the other. These probably don't bring as much as Krause suggests - the lesser on is maybe $30... better one MAYBE (tone a bit weird). As noted, those (2) 1910s-era Norway 1Kr are solid pieces, also. Plenty of other silver, too, though mostly bulk quality.

Honestly, this is too much to take for free, if you actually know the guy personally and he wouldn't get insulted or regret it after the fact. This is $250+ on ebay with little effort.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lunch Money to your friends list
I have one coin from the lot that I haven't yet identified. I'm hoping that someone here can help me with it.

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And more importantly, I'd like to get your help with how to show my gratitude to the gentleman that gave me these coins. I delivered a handwritten thank-you note yesterday and he told me that the coins were in a box for years, having previously belonged to his in-laws from their travels in Europe. Neither he nor his wife are coin collectors and they just wanted to get them out of their house, since they just downsized to a single story house that fits their needs as they age (previously, they lived down the street from me, now across town). The coins he kept for his grandson were all US coins. I don't think he had a sentimental attachment to these coins, but I also believe that he may not have known what he had. Or if he did have some idea, he did not know what to do with them.
Since he was giving them to the first person to respond, I don't think he expects anything in return, but like others here have pointed out, it just doesn't feel right not to say something or do something for him. I wasn't trying to purchase a lot of coins, but there is obviously some value here I didn't expect in a free lot.
I feel like "community" carries as much weight as "coin" on this forum and so my question is, what is the right thing to do here? I feel a little stuck as I try to figure this one out. Do I try to pay him something? If so, how much? Offer them back? Give him a gift card for dinner out? Am I overthinking it?
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 Posted 07/15/2021  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list

Lunch Money I for one agree that something is in order.

Being older myself and having recently downsized after filing bankruptcy, I would appreciate a nice dinner out with the wife, not something else to take up space. Money seems inappropriate given the situation.

Community is precisely what I see as missing in modern coin collecting. It used to be a hobby first and money always came second. Now there is too much emphasis on cash - making cash - taking advantage of others for a lack of understanding etc.

Think about it. If you knew them well take them out and renew your former acquaintances. If not really a nice gift card I am sure would be appreciated.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list
Lunch Money The coin you posted is a Japanese 50 Yen a copper nickel coin dated year 14 (2002).
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