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Gold Is Dropping Like A Stone. How Come?

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 Posted 08/08/2021  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I want to buy some bullion, but I am currently prevented by CV-19 from making a physical face to face purchase at the bullion dealer.
For that reason I an contributing to the demand for bullion drying up. I am one of perhaps many thousands of people around the World that are delaying a decision to buy.
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 Posted 08/08/2021  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Why the drop? Well, gold has a pretty high specific gravity...
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 Posted 08/08/2021  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Perhaps the market expects things to go back to "normal" sooner than everyone else.
Dollar strength also impacts the price of gold. However, the dollar is not up because it is so fantastic, but because China is falling apart (they just went into another lockdown and are rapidly becoming an investment unfriendly nation) and Europe is not doing much better. The US is simply the least ugliest sister of the three.
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08/08/2021 9:46 pm
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 Posted 08/08/2021  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
People/companies/investors generally put money into gold during times of economic uncertainty which 2020 to 2021 have been uncertain times with lock downs, covid, unemployed and massive government subsidies. The major players decided it might be a good time to hold some Precious metals. As the US comes out of covid and our economy comes back the investors decided to get out of gold, coupled with a great jobs report and you have investors dumping gold (mostly paper, vast majority of investors hold paper not physical gold). This results in a short term drop in value, now if this keeps on happening you can get into a cycle of price is dropping, I'm selling which causes the price to drop more until gold hits a floor which can take years to recover.

The good thing about gold and other PMs is that the physical asset and the paper asset aren't necessary in sync, we saw this when silver tanked and you couldn't buy it at the low price same may occur with gold.

While I doubt our day to day hold purchase affect the market, the big investment firms (like JP Morgan), are the ones that generally control the value, if they get out of gold and go to US Bonds as they might expect the interest rates to go up, we may eventually have a large drop in value. As to whether this is going to happen, I have no idea.
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 Posted 08/08/2021  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
Jobs Report however that quite false data all you need to do is look at outside it will be revised so who cares. basically bonds fell rallied dollar, as gold usually trades inverted to the dollar it goes down like a balloon.
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 Posted 08/08/2021  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
The sky is not falling , there is the Jobs report
Cheap money is going to be around for a bit
and gold pays neither interest nor dividends .
That is the one reason no portfolio should ever
Have more than 5 per cent PM position.
I dumped 50 ounces at 2300 CAD a few years
back and put it all in reasonably conservative
dividend paying stocks .way ahead !
Gold and silver as investments really suck !
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 Posted 08/09/2021  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
oh wait I see what mean on the OTC markets, well someone lost some major coin. NOTE he's saying TODAY at the open of the Asian trading session, no I haven't seen any news at the moment but I would be darn interested as that seem at be too much even for wallstreeters MM.
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 Posted 08/09/2021  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list
$4 billion dollar paper dump.
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 Posted 08/09/2021  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list

Quote:
Gold and silver as investments really suck
Of course they do, because they're not. They're insurance in case paper assets fail.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
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 Posted 08/09/2021  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryurazu to your friends list
"$4 billion dollar paper dump",reference, on market? where did you get this figure? asking cause I sort want to know ins and out the in the weeds stuff, any you tuber or good source reference other than basic new media. Was this cause of option expiring, some one place large futures contact or something way more insider?
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 Posted 08/09/2021  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
Crypto's?
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 Posted 08/09/2021  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list
Looks like it's time to buy. Nothing else is on sale these days.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 08/10/2021  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list
Federal reserve bank drop to raise interest rates?
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 Posted 08/13/2021  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenmorenee to your friends list
On any given day there are hundreds of pieces of data that can be blamed for the rise or drop in gold.  You can wait a week and the exact same piece of data will be blamed for the move in price in the exact opposite direction.


Tops are only clear in hindsight and that top in Aug 2020 sure looks like one. Lots of panic and media hype and a nice cover story.

 
I think the market is wrestling with 2 massive forces. COVID is a massive worldwide deflationary event.  And it has triggered an equally(?) massive money printing response.  I think COVID is winning.  All that economic output, all that consumption skipped or postponed,  all those people that have passed.  None of this will be replaced any time soon, hence the massive stimulus.  I don't think you could ever print enough to make everyone whole again.


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 Posted 08/14/2021  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
The gold is being sold after the corona economy crisis.
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