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Pillar of the Community
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You own this coin? Or what do you mean by ogling?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I thought the master hubs were re-done in 1916? Maybe I'm wrong (about Denver dies) but the late teens generally have great detail.
By the way - That's got great devices! Could be worth $2K-3K?
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Keep in mind, even worn dies were relatively fresh at one point....
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No, I don't own it, but thinking about it. LOL
If it's legit, it's the earliest die state/well struck example for this year/mint ever. Go look at ha.com. I don't think anyone would forge one of these, the S is more valuable than the D (lower mintage), but, in conditional rarity, this ones a gem. The MM looks genuine, the D rests in a depression.
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No doubt this coin has been through at least one chemical bath. It is NOT original. For what it is, it does look nice. I do agree that it has a strong strike and little die wear.
I don't know how much you're looking to spend on it, but I would suggest staying under the MS63 level. Although the coin is low on marks, it still has been altered.
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No doubt this coin has been through at least one chemical bath. It is NOT original. For what it is, it does look nice. I do agree that it has a strong strike and little die wear.
I don't know how much you're looking to spend on it, but I would suggest staying under the MS63 level. Although the coin is low on marks, it still has been altered.
BINGO! Exactly what I was waiting for someone to post. I think someone tried to make it a full red coin at some point. What a shame because it's the best detail I've ever seen on an 18D. I suspect it was rejected by a TPG for altered surfaces. Thanks Chuck!  |
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So what is the price they were asking for it?
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It is NOT original I agree. The luster is definitely subdued as well as the uneven re-toning. Killer strike! Would make a nice addition even though altered. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Although the coin is low on marks, it still has been altered. This is an interesting thread. Q. David Bowers repeats several times in a couple of his books that many slabbed full RD Lincolns from this era have been altered. He's talking about PCGS and NGC slabbed coins. Doctoring coins has gotten that good. According to Bowers, many early Lincolns slabbed as RD are actually altered coins putting their price into the stratosphere! Shocking! |
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onejinx - This coin will go over $200. Brad - Yep, I have to agree with Bowers, he repeats that over and over in his book. I actually think most of them were slabbed long ago, before the TPG's figured it out. I've seen many pics on ha.com of coins too clean to be true in slabs. I'm getting pretty good at detecting the dippers. I'd be very surprized if one could slip though today as close as they are looking for that now. |
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I figured it would have been higher.
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Altered early Lincolns are still being slabbed by PCGS and NGC to this day. I can vouch for this, although it's not me doing it. I have seen doctored coins in the before and after stage within 2008.
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I figured they would have learned to detect these, what a shame that is.
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