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Pillar of the Community
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I too am curious as to what all of these look like. Seeing images of each we would be able to point out exactly (more than likely) what PCGS saw, give some feedback so that these vouchers don't go wasted in the future. If you can't upload the image, you can also share the certification numbers of each coin, as long as there's Trueview pics, we can look them up. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Use the free image optimizer to get the photos to portable size..or share the PCGS numbers
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Valued Member
 United States
104 Posts |
So PCGS numbers are as follows:  And I the 22 Peace which I don't how it's loading. 
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Valued Member
 United States
104 Posts |
Well heck, since that worked. 45 Standing Liberty 
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Valued Member
 United States
104 Posts |
And the 1857 Flying Eagle 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7292 Posts |
The 1945 50 cent I see the large scratch, so that one would details.
The 1922 Peace is a common date, common coin, unless it was spectacular I wouldn't have slabbed that one. The cleaning isn't bad, but I would agree with the grade.
The 1858 you can CLEARLY see the damage, grade is accurate.
And the 1857 has both scratches and 5 small gouges. Why would you get that graded?
There wasn't one coin that was worth grading, everyone was clearly details.
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Valued Member
 United States
104 Posts |
And the 1858 50cent 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I think the grades are accurate, although it's hard to detect the cleaning on the Peace dollar with the photos. That explains why they didn't get numerical grades. The only thing they got wrong is the WLH is a half dollar, not a quarter.
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Valued Member
 United States
104 Posts |
Well color me educated and advised. I guess the part that confused me was the total lack of any grade. Heck call it a G6 If you like. And I'm not saying I disagree with the comments. But I am learning and they were free so good education from my point of view.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When submitting coins for grading you have to have either a coin that is worth it (like high value or high grade) or because of authencity. Unless the coin is valuable or the details grade questionable with a potential upside ($$$$), it rarely makes it worth it grade it yourself. It's actually much cheaper to buy coins already graded. Sadly these coins didn't merit grading.
Look I graded stuff that I was like why did I do that? So it's a lesson learned, but seriously try to grade stuff that meets either of these 3 conditions: value, condition or authentic
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd also have to agree with all of the above grades. The Peace dollar looks like it was over dipped, hence the cleaned grade. For future reference, feel free to post you're coins in question here next time before submitting. It's free, the group consensus is usually pretty accurate, and we love giving opinions 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agree with TY above and sometimes we also get it wrong. I submitted 12 coins a few months ago for grading 3 came back higher, 2 were right on the dot, 3 were slightly lower and 4 were details. Even though I knew they were details I submitted them hoping for a different outcome. It didn't happen. I still made out as the total value exceeded my purchase price as the coins were under graded when I purchased them. But please ask, we like giving advice (although it could all over the place depending on who grades the coin)
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Valued Member
 United States
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Lessons learned! In the future you'll be asked first! I honestly thought the Peace dollar was pretty good and though I knew the Flying Eagle had the scratch, I thought overall it was a nice coin so .curious. But yes, next years vouchers won't get wasted as such. Thanks all for the comments
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Pillar of the Community
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There are quite a few "rules of thumb" that people use about third-party grading. None of these are hard-and-fast rules. They are just ideas that people have come to accept as a type of collective wisdom. They can be helpful, though.  Value. Many people set an arbitrary coin value where grading may make financial sense. A lot of people draw the line around $150-$200 minimum value. Others of us set the limit higher. (I draw the line around $1500, except for heavily counterfeited dates.)  Authenticity. Many people have coins graded where authenticity either is doubtful or where having the TPG guarantee could matter. An example would be a G/VG 1909-S VDB cent. Another example is gold coins that trade largely at bullion value, such as US modern commemorative half eagles. If bulk submissions can be done, having the slab greatly helps sales.  Collectible varieties. Sometimes having a particular variety recognized makes a coin more valuable or increases the ability to sell a coin. An example might be a 1917 double die cent.  Bulk submissions, where the per-coin price is low. An example might be purchasing a couple BU rolls of a pre-war Lincoln Cent. Take 1937-D as an example. It is common in mid-UNC grades. but the bump to MS-67 RD is over $100 per coin, and a bump to MS-68 RD is around $6,000+. It only takes a couple MS-67 RD coins to make the bulk grading worthwhile, and one MS-68 RD is a walkoff grand slam home run.  Gambling on a higher grade. For many coins, just a one-point bump in grade can be worth hundreds of dollars. That's also true for improving a designation, such as RB to RD for a cent or getting a PL or DMPL designation for a Morgan dollar.  It costs nothing to post coins on here and see what others think of the grade. Doing that first can help inform the decision whether to send the coin to a TPG, or in some cases which TPG might be better for a given coin. Just some random thoughts.
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Except for the peace I would not have graded any of those for sure.
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