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1955 Doubled Die Struck On A Tapered Planchet. Unique Or Not?

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 Posted 09/04/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list
It does look pretty neat but coop said it perfect.
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 Posted 09/04/2021  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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Variety collectors love that variety but want to see all the doubling in all its glory.
An error collector would love how the tapering shows so well but I wouldn't they would necessarily shell out that kind of extra money for the variety.
awesome coin but probably not a combination that will go for extra money, and it would not surprise me if this turns out to be worth less than a normal example of the variety.

I'm reminded of an old CCF thread [EDIT: this one] about an 1909-S VDB cent with a huge delamination; the comments there were fairly similar.
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 Posted 09/04/2021  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigwho808 to your friends list
This coin is glorious! Noice find!
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 Posted 09/04/2021  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list
I find this to be a wonderful error and variety combo coin with great eye appeal.
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 Posted 09/04/2021  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EScottCoins to your friends list
Hi gang,

Respectfully, as all can see, I was just asking if anyone else has ever seen one.

Not for the grossly incorrect (which is proven right here in the replies to this thread) unrequested education of how all collectors unequivocally function within the walls of a "camp" or having the coin badmouthed. I didn't expect either here and, frankly, it's disappointing to me. Personally I think both are detrimental to the unity of and mutual respect by collectors and the hobby as a whole. As a very seasoned professional collector that knows there's always something for someone and vise versa, as well as being an individual that can and does choose to share in anyone's joy of their own treasures, I really can't find a public or communal upside of doing either. I can't help but ponder the probable motivation in choosing to do either, let alone both, in this situation. Had I asked others their opinion of the coin it'd be more appropriate, IMOHO. That said, as long as it fulfilled someone's interpersonal needs or agenda then I suppose I provided value for them. So to them, you're welcome.

I feel empathetic for others that find it interpersonally necessary to state "I don't like your _____" when they weren't asked their opinion. But I'm likely the minority.

The fact is there are collectors in, across and commingling between every collectable category known to mankind that collect census rare. Further there are endless broad-minded collectors that don't request to be or allow themselves to be pigeonholed into a "camp".

Back to the original topic at hand; I describe this coin in regards to the particular variety in conjunction with the particular error as "unique" because I believe it to be. I believe this because to date I've not been able to find another individual that has personally seen one. Many years ago, on another forum, a prominent error dealer claimed there are several (and put the lip to my coin). However he'd never seen one. This was simply another (of many) good faith attempts to shake the bushes and see if anyone has personally seen one.

Certainly it's possible another exists, it's possible many exist, but I don't know I'd say plausible when just considering the mathematics. But yes, certainly possible. Hence my post and question. The mathematical odds of this occurrence are greater than winning the lottery twice...and this lottery only happened once. Many lotteries go without winners so as far as census rare it's a fun treasure.

THANK YOU for the compliments regarding the images, appreciated!

To answer Spence: This specimen is certified and graded by NGC as EF45 and has been for at least 13 years.

To answer Jasper62: Yes sir, tapered planchets weigh less. I haven't weighed this example because I acquired it already encapsulated so I have no way to know a definitive weight of the holder. That said I intend to remove it at some point and will weigh it at that time simply for educational purposes.

E.J. Scott

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I didn't expect either here and, frankly, it's disappointing to me.
I sincerely apologize for any disappointment. As I said, it's an awesome coin, and it sounds like you in any case do not intend to sell it, so it shouldn't matter how much it might theoretically sell for.

I have no idea if it's unique. I do know that I've never heard of another before, and if asked would probably have said that such a combination was vanishingly unlikely. OTOH, I agree with @Petespockets55 that the way planchets are typically made heavily implies that if there was one there were probably several.
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 Posted 09/04/2021  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
I have a vague memory of seeing a 1955 DDO with a taper that wiped out the last digit of the date. Tapered planchets are especially abundant in 1955, so it would not surprise me of there was more than one example of this error/variety combo.
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 Posted 09/04/2021  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
I like this one a lot.
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 Posted 09/05/2021  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
Yes it is unique. If there is another tapered planchet 55, odds are the taper would be somewhere else on the coin. This satisfies both error and variety collectors. At least it would this one, if I could afford it I would give more for it than a non error 55.
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 Posted 09/05/2021  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Confounding to me that an aberration like this could possibly be worth more than a perfect specimen.
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 Posted 09/05/2021  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list

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Confounding to me that an aberration like this could possibly be worth more than a perfect specimen.


It's simple, a "perfect" specimen is more common than an "imperfect" one. Supply and demand economics bs or whatever.
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 Posted 09/05/2021  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
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 Posted 09/07/2021  01:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EScottCoins to your friends list
Aside from just trying to get an answer to a question there are some very interesting comments here;

"Confounding to me that an aberration like this could possibly be worth more than a perfect specimen." This is an interesting point of view! Thank you for sharing. In this comment would you then agree that a 1955 Doubled Die Obverse Lincoln, which is not a perfect 1955 cent, should not command a premium over a non Doubled Die Obverse Lincoln Cent? Equally, would you agree that a non Doubled Die Obverse Lincoln Cent on a tapered planchet should not command a premium over one on a non tapered planchet?

"Tapered planchets are especially abundant in 1955" I was not aware of this and this in very interesting knowledge you share. Would you please share what reference you use as the root of this knowledge? Thanks in advance!

Thanks all!

E.J. Scott



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 Posted 09/07/2021  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dallywopper to your friends list
Nice!
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 Posted 09/07/2021  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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Yes it is unique. If there is another tapered planchet 55, odds are the taper would be somewhere else on the coin.
...I hadn't thought of it that way, but I have to admit that it's probably true.
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