12 Coin Grades Are In For Those Of You Who Have Been Curious (Ms-67)

Want to "train your eye" to see the difference between MS66 and MS67? Go to ebay and purchase the MS67 PCGS and study it.

Agree with what T-Bop, 3rd party been hit and misses, wouldn't be surprise if the same one that you resubmit gets a MS67, not that you should. Going to a large show or two and spend time searching and learning, save your wallet also sometime.

We've already had this discussion - but there are some wise members on this forum I agree with. You're buying scratch offs at this point.

That said, you can at least recoup some grading fees by selling the ones you don't want. If you do well on those, then it was a fairly cheap lesson.




Learn this, pictures cannot be fully trusted. They are merely representations of the truth. Coin collecting isn't about grading pictures, it's about holding and seeing a coin yourself. Only then can you really determine the grade (with experience) and most importantly - the eye appeal. Something pictures cannot tell you. A lot of minor imperfections, as long as they are not too distracting, are forgiven with great eye appeal and luster.

Not so sure about ANACS but the ANA does.

There was a sponsored one locally led by Bob Mellor (PCGS) and it was very helpful. One of the biggest things was looking for that cartwheel luster and not using a loupe very often. Not using the loupe very often was stressed many times. Using a loupe was reserved for varieties, clarifying a visual anomaly, higher grade coins, or for verifying real vs. fake.

It was enlightening.

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[/We've already had this discussion - but there are some wise members on this forum I agree with. You're buying scratch offs at this point.

That said, you can at least recoup some grading fees by selling the ones you don't want. If you do well on those, then it was a fairly cheap lesson.


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One last thing and probably my biggest mistake is that I search for PCGS pictures of ms-67 wheats and there are lots of them and most have more contact marks than I see on coins I submit. This confuses me!


Learn this, pictures cannot be fully trusted. They are merely representations of the truth. Coin collecting isn't about grading pictures, it's about holding and seeing a coin yourself. Only then can you really determine the grade (with experience) and most importantly - the eye appeal. Something pictures cannot tell you. A lot of minor imperfections, as long as they are not too distracting, are forgiven with great eye appeal and luster.
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BadThad , you know I hold you in high regard, everything you say, I take to heart. There are so many good educational comments on this thread. To all of you that read this ; your comments are helpful and definitely appreciated and not disregarded with me thinking you don't know what you are talking about. Without my forum buddies I would be lost in the middle of the forest, now I am lost in the forest but headed in the right direction. What one person finds appealing only means it's appealing to them (or so I think?). I love the brown ones ,the woodgrain ones, the cherry red ones and the golden ones (one of my many problems) ideas on taking a class are intriguing to me . Logistics and my job present obstacles. As for saving my money,(how right you are) I used to go blow 500 at the casino 3 times a year (that's sort of a donation!). I am processing all the information that's presented. I have purchased some ms-67 coins and a couple 68 coins to study. Rest assured I will slow down submissions, being much more confident when I do submit. I want to complete a set of memorials with my own submissions. For the enjoyment I get. I may hit 67 on the journey?

Helder don't waist you breath ,I tried a few time to get him to learn how to Quote . I think he likes the way he writes everything out .

The etiquette police are in full force. Putting " marks around a quote is the proper way to quote someone according to the English teachers where I work. However, we are not in English class or school. Besides while trying to learn to grade Lincolns, I have had to learn how to take proper pictures and post correctly while keeping a full time job. My first concern is learning to grade from you guys. I know a post rarely comes out the way it's intended (attitude wise) and I have not intended to aggravate you guys. My question to you is How fast would a penny be traveling if I threw it at you from a rooftop of a building 1500 ft tall with an initial velocity of 50 ft/sec and it struck you on the head ( not letting air resistance come into play) and would it be traveling fast enough to penetrate your skin. . I am not a photographer, nor a computer whiz and for sure not an English professor. Ease up on me, I am far from dumb.. I have now been given three different ways to properly coin quote. ps I also have not read the glossary of all coin abbreviations! oh! by the way the coin would hit you at roughly 315 ft/sec and it takes something traveling at 800 ft/sec to penetrate the body cavity not necessarily the skin but you would get a bruise. ( if you would like that in miles per hour let me know

Well gravity is pulling you at 9.8 meters per second but because on earth we have air resistance the penny (actually 1 cent) won't ever hit you at the speed you put in, I'm interested in science, math, internet protocol and coins. I guess you can call me a renaissance man, but when I'm critiqued I try to learn instead of trying to make others feel inferior.