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197x-D LMC Flipover Double Strike With A Few Oddities

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 Posted 01/31/2022  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list
Incredible error! I'm no expert, but I expect some serious experts will come along soon. Congrats on an amazing error!
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 Posted 01/31/2022  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
The first off-centre strike looks normal. Undoubtedly, another planchet got involved here before the second strike on that coin. The tricky part is figuring out what, exactly?

I do know this, $225 in a PCGS Gold Shield holder is a steal for that error!!
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 Posted 02/01/2022  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
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 Posted 02/01/2022  04:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
Very cool coin.
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 Posted 02/01/2022  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list
its a picasso
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 Posted 02/01/2022  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Excellent error. Congrats.
I'm not sure how they deciphered the 7 in the date, but the more numbers the better.

The reverse of the coin (no date) has part of the memorial columns visible under the TY. This makes me think this coin had a mid-stage brockage for the first strike. (No obverse details on the first strike.)

EDIT: There is only so much room on the label so the attributor probably put the information that is more desirable. Brockage coins are nice but a "Flip-over double-struck , both 70% Off- Center" is WOW.
One more line on the label and they could have added the brockage!
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 Posted 02/01/2022  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
Thank you all for the comments! I am certainly very happy with the coin.

Pete,

When looking at the "obverse" side of the coin the strike that applied the memorial on that side was the first strike, so the strike that applied the word "Liberty" on the reverse side is also a part of the first strike. I'm not sure a brockage would allow you to clearly make out details of the underlying strike through the brockage. I'm fairly certain that a brockage, assuming there was one, happened on the second strike and not the first. Though this still doesn't explain why that brockage didn't obliterate the detail from the first strike.
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 Posted 02/01/2022  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
Nice coin! Here's the PCGS pictures of the coin!
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 Posted 02/01/2022  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
It honestly had not occurred to me to check the trueview pictures, thank you for that!
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 Posted 02/01/2022  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Looks like there is also a clash showing on the Liberty area on the coin.
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I was asked for my opinion. The second off-center strike was uniface. As is often the case in such errors, the relatively soft metal of the underlying planchet failed to obliterate the first-strike lettering of LIBERTY. While the raised letters should ordinarily show expansion, in this case they retain their original size. I'm not entirely sure why, but I've seen this effect before. As for the columns of the Memorial that appear beneath crushed LIBERTY and to the left of the first-strike bust, this is simply an incuse ghost image of the reverse design that bled through the thinned metal of the double-struck tab.
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 Posted 02/01/2022  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Thanks Mike.
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 Posted 02/01/2022  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
Of course it was something obvious that I missed, thank you Mike!
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As a general rule, small, narrow alphanumerics are less likely to expand than large, flat alphanumerics. Taking a guess, it may be that the narrow elements penetrate the obstructing planchet more quickly and effectively, and are then more effectively confined by the surrounding metal. But as I said, expansion is variable.
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