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What if they tone ugly 10 or 20 years from now because of being dipped? John1  |
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What if they tone ugly 10 or 20 years from now because of being dipped? All my PCGS Ikes were slabbed by the original owner; that is, I bought them that way. I have no way of knowing what they looked like before PCGS put them in their holders. I have not seen any changes in the (over) five years since I started that set, so ask me again in five years.  |
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Zurie, can you explain what you mean by 'properly dipped' please?
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And, as a general followup question, if a say for example 100 year old dime appears white with no toning, has it absolutely been dipped?
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What do they use as a dip? Hmm, Onion Dip ?  |
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I'll share a simple story. It was a sunny day in northern California. I was at a local coin shop, checking out their inventory because I had saved up some coin money. I spotted this AU 1939-S Walking half dollar for a reasonable price, although the toning seemed to have average eye appeal and was almost unattractive. Maybe a little PVC on the coin as well. The dealer noticed the splotchy toning, immediately went to the back room, and dipped the coin without a second thought. When he brought it back out, I almost threw up (not really). I was not interested in the coin anymore, and the blast white appearance was a huge turn off. I learned a couple things that day. The first being that dipped AU coins are uglyyyyyy. The second lesson learned was that I prefer an average looking original coin than an unnatural blast white coin. So when would I buy a dipped coin? Never. I avoid, the much I can, all coins that have any appearance of cleaning, whether dipped, wiped, or even rubbed in a pocket. Who cares where it's been, all I care about is how it looks now. The magic words are eye appeal. Quote:
And, as a general followup question, if a say for example 100 year old dime appears white with no toning, has it absolutely been dipped? The odds that a 100 year old coin developed not a drop of toning is very unlikely, so chances are the coin has been dipped/cleaned/anythingthatmakesitlookbrighter. If the coin looks good, I may take a shot at it. But if it looks dipped, I will pass. Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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It is certainly possible to have 100 year old coins that are blast white with no toning and never previously been dipped. But as I said, sometimes it can be impossible to tell.
Properly dipped means that a chemical has been applied carefully and rinsed off to remove toning on an uncirculated coin, but not to the point where it removes any original mint luster. Once luster is removed, the coin may look shiny but will have flat surfaces without cartwheel luster, and is then considered overdipped and/or cleaned.
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Thx for the explanations, much appreciated.
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I target original skin coins. If I feel the coin has been dipped, I will most likely pass. I do own some coins that have been dipped because I dipped them.
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For me it's simple. If I like it, I'll buy it.
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Keep in mind that the TPGs often dip coins before they are slabbed Wait what...? I've never heard of this before? Is this true? As a submitter do we authorize them to do this at their discretion? smat |
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Keep in mind that the TPGs often dip coins before they are slabbed Never heard of this before, except when the coin's owner chooses to have the coin "restored." Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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For me it's simple. If I like it, I'll buy it. I'm pretty much in the same boat as Carl. Coins I can "assume likely" had a dip, but maintain eye appeal and luster are just fine in my book. Coins that are over dipped, lack luster, I would avoid. |
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The big TPGs offer conservation services. One of their methods is "proper dipping". They have a full time department that specializes in the conservation service. Many of the coins are slabbed without a Details designation and we move along in life with the "new" coin. Between PCGS,NGC, and ANACS and their years providing the service, I would venture to say their are a few million dipped coins in slabs without a Details label.
As we say, but the coin and not the label.
If you like it, buy it. If you have your doubts, look for the the next one. Most of us aren't in the market for unique coins; there is always a next. Make yourself happy.
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03/16/2022 8:12 pm
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