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Pillar of the Community
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love the old ANACS Holders. There are some gems
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Probably best to leave in ANACS holder. TPGs are tough on Trade dollar grading. Here is my ICG MS-62 as a reference.   
Edited by jimbucks 03/12/2022 7:24 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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If not proof, would this Trade dollar be eligible for a PL designation?
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Quote:If not proof, would this Trade dollar be eligible for a PL designation? Yes, but the mirrors on the OP example come up a little short to get the PL designation in today's grading standard. I would put the mirrors in the semi-prooflike category. In some of the older holders, Morgan PL examples can be found with mirrors less than 2" clarity, but the coin's would often have a strong cameo. PCGS has graded 3 Trade dollars as PL and NGC has graded 31 Trade dollars as PL. If you every want to get a PL or DMPL designation, send it to NGC.
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Bedrock of the Community
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cant believe this is not a proof. fooled everyone here with that strike. I agree 61 is too low imo
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: fooled everyone here with that strike Not everyone, as a few of us here knew it was a business strike. 
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Pillar of the Community
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I dont know the series well enough but it looked like a proof to me..
I've been collecting for a couple years... Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set | Coffee, Corvettes, Coins & the CCF what could be better?
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Fooled me, though I did question a few points of weakness on the reverse. Don't know this series well enough. Thanks for sharing @Slider23. There's been an interesting, ongoing write up in The Numismatist (I think it was) on Trade dollars. Piqued my interest in the series that I've always put on the back burner.
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Quote: Not everyone, as a few of us here knew it was a business strike Jimbucks was the only responder that had the coin as a business strike at MS62. my bad. should have said "all but one". i'll be more careful in the future.
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Panzi...
I think you need to check again as at least two of us got it correct as a MS business strike and no one hit the actual MS61 ancient ANACS grade. Old ANACS white holders still hold many undergraded coins. This may be one of them. Bottom line is it is a nice pickup no matter what it grades.
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Bedrock of the Community
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See my reply on 3/10 (page 1 here) wherein I stated MS61/PF61 for my grade opinion.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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Pillar of the Community
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Can't be both. it's either one OR the other!
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I agree. I just don't know how to tell proof vs. business strike on these (die markers, etc.)
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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I thought it was an MS strike because the rim and the beads just did not have that "look" that the proofs usually do. I think it would at least crossover as-is, but **might** get a 1 point bump.
There is only one way to find out.
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I was fooled both by the very well-defined denticles and the nicely mirrored fields, which I've never seen on a business strike Trade dollar before. Pretty extraordinary piece, ultimately worth resubmitting to PCGS or NGC.
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