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1876 Trade Dollar You Vs ANACS Small Holder

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 Posted 03/12/2022  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
love the old ANACS Holders. There are some gems
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 Posted 03/12/2022  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Probably best to leave in ANACS holder. TPGs are tough on Trade dollar grading. Here is my ICG MS-62 as a reference.
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 Posted 03/12/2022  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
If not proof, would this Trade dollar be eligible for a PL designation?
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 Posted 03/12/2022  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list

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If not proof, would this Trade dollar be eligible for a PL designation?


Yes, but the mirrors on the OP example come up a little short to get the PL designation in today's grading standard. I would put the mirrors in the semi-prooflike category. In some of the older holders, Morgan PL examples can be found with mirrors less than 2" clarity, but the coin's would often have a strong cameo. PCGS has graded 3 Trade dollars as PL and NGC has graded 31 Trade dollars as PL. If you every want to get a PL or DMPL designation, send it to NGC.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
cant believe this is not a proof. fooled everyone here with that strike. I agree 61 is too low imo
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 Posted 03/13/2022  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list

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fooled everyone here with that strike


Not everyone, as a few of us here knew it was a business strike.
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 Posted 03/13/2022  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jakes Coins to your friends list
I dont know the series well enough but it looked like a proof to me..
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 Posted 03/13/2022  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Fooled me, though I did question a few points of weakness on the reverse. Don't know this series well enough. Thanks for sharing @Slider23.

There's been an interesting, ongoing write up in The Numismatist (I think it was) on Trade dollars. Piqued my interest in the series that I've always put on the back burner.
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 Posted 03/14/2022  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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Not everyone, as a few of us here knew it was a business strike


Jimbucks was the only responder that had the coin as a business strike at MS62. my bad. should have said "all but one". i'll be more careful in the future.
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 Posted 03/14/2022  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Panzi...

I think you need to check again as at least two of us got it correct as a MS business strike and no one hit the actual MS61 ancient ANACS grade. Old ANACS white holders still hold many undergraded coins. This may be one of them. Bottom line is it is a nice pickup no matter what it grades.
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 Posted 03/14/2022  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
See my reply on 3/10 (page 1 here) wherein I stated MS61/PF61 for my grade opinion.
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 Posted 03/14/2022  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Can't be both. it's either one OR the other!
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 Posted 03/14/2022  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I agree. I just don't know how to tell proof vs. business strike on these (die markers, etc.)
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 Posted 03/15/2022  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
I thought it was an MS strike because the rim and the beads just did not have that "look" that the proofs usually do. I think it would at least crossover as-is, but **might** get a 1 point bump.

There is only one way to find out.
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 Posted 03/19/2022  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pristine2 to your friends list
I was fooled both by the very well-defined denticles and the nicely mirrored fields, which I've never seen on a business strike Trade dollar before.

Pretty extraordinary piece, ultimately worth resubmitting to PCGS or NGC.
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