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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'd leave it on there. What's underneath will likely look worse, not blending in as well as what's currently there. The flip side is removing it then trying to "age" what are probably whiter, brighter spots left behind.
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talk about hiding issues with photos. I can definitely see why it ED'd. there's a finger print at K10 obv and the obv right field looks like its been cleaned and something not good is going on under the olive branch. the coin has multiple issues.  Quote:
I'd leave it on there. What's underneath will likely look worse, not blending in as well as what's currently there. i agree with this statement by BH1964 |
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Bedrock of the Community
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Excellent job and quite a beautiful coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Taiwan
606 Posts |
Very nice. A huge improvement.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4469 Posts |
Nice job and good decision as you saved the surface of the coin from getting worse. The coin has a lot of eye appeal. It turned out to be a nice buy.
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United States
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Quite an improvement  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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i have to agree. the verdicare did an excellent job. I was really expecting something worse under that green gunk. she may be worth another shot at a slab. maybe at least the ED tag would be removed
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Marvelous result. Will you resubmit? Do you think it would grade problem-free?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for all your comments. I really have no idea if it would grade straight on a resubmission. I am considering a large submission with other coins but I am unsure of the timing if at all. I think I would incur over $6K in grading and other fees so I am unsure about whether it's worth it to move forward.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2596 Posts |
nice job cleaning the coin looks great
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fantastic conservation! The reverse clearly will straight grade. The ballgame is the obverse, and there are three hurdles with the obverse. First, there clearly was an old cleaning. IMHO, that is not enough to detail the coin. Second, there is the area on the shield where the verdigris was removed. That, too, does not look like it would detail the coin. Your conservation really improved the coin here. Third, there is the surface pitting that was beneath the original gunk that previously was removed. It is slightly more evident now. This is the closer question. I don't see anything on the portrait that is sufficient to detail the coin. The only area that gives me any pause is the field surrounding the third, fourth, and fifth stars. Just wondering here, with two questions that only you can answer:  Do you think you might have a better chance at a straight grade through NGC, rather than sending it back to PCGS? Would allowing it to re-tone a bit before submitting help the cause? My original thought was that if you could conserve it, you have a walkoff home run. This is really, really close to that home run. You did well. Even if it doesn't come back with a straight grade, the eye appeal improvement definitely increased the value. |
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United States
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Honestly being a Seated Liberty I would think it would straight grade, They may net grade it but I would send to NGC and see what they say. It would be worth it especially if you send multiple coins in to help cover the cost.
Just my thought. Sweet coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Thanks for your further thoughts. I'm not sure if it has a better chance to straight grade at NGC. I don't see any color difference that stands out in the conserved area, so I don't believe it is necessary to allow the conserved area to re-tone. For me, PCGS submission is cheaper than NGC by about 9% so I would prefer to submit to PCGS, especially given that I have a large # of coins to submit. If I decide to get them graded - still haven't decided.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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