1908-D Barber Quarter For Grading And Comments

there are some dull areas but you will see this on MS63 coins. the obv looks to have at least 50% remaining and the reverse about 80%. this is not going to knock this coin 2 points. the coin has eye appeal. sometimes they just dont get it right

Nice variety. Have sent about 105 barber half's quarters and dimes into ANACS last 5 months and the high grade ones have me batting around .200 ANACS graders imo cut a little more elbow room (but not much) their graders are no dummies and they are # 3 of the big 3 so lets not kid anyone and say their no good...going out on a limb but these shiny reverse sorts kinda shiny obverse barbers 90% of the time come back "details cleaned" so looks like your coin might have caused a harder look and it passed. MS-61 is a wilcard grade a crazy grade and I love them especially in the old soapboxes but the modern ones are iffy to me. I figure your coin is an excellent AU-58 NGC and an excellent MS-61 ANACS its a cool variety and is market acceptable. Nice pick up, I have a couple that look identical to your example and they say "cleaned" I stomped and said crap! LOL glad you like your new pickup great topic.

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There seem to be four things going on here. First, there is the cheek rash, which looks more like bagginess than circulation. Second, there does seem to be an old cleaning, which ANACS evidently sees as market acceptable. Third, there is the difference in obverse and reverse luster, which could be different retoning during album storage. Fourth, like the others on this board, I'm at a tossup between slider and BU. The 61 sure seems like a net grade, trying to balance those considerations.

I agree, leave it in the ANACS slab. The 61 is a good argument against people who see it as a slider, and it may attract people who want to risk cracking it and rolling the dice at the TPG casino.

Great variety, and a nice coin. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Thank you fortcollins for your input. After looking the coin over a jewelry loupe, I can tell that the coin has a lot of hairlines but I can see them moving when rotating the coin under the light. Attached photos show the hairlines under different angles. I tried my best to show how "bad" the coin can appear under the loupe. Is this a normal thing for a coin with this grade? (I'm aware that MS60-61-62 can be the grades for "problem" coins but I'm not really familiar with Barber coinage).

Again, I thank you for everyone's input/ comment. Even if I have had a lot of questions in my mind, everyone is helpful and answer my questions thoroughly. I have learnt a lot of new things in the community.



There should be also some hairlines just between the eagle neck and the left wings but my camera and the loupe cannot capture it. It can only be seen in person, unfortunately. (The hairlines shadow is from the slab itself.

You said it, obviously cleaned. Terrible call.

I concur with the fact that the coin shows evidence of an old cleaning. I wonder why ANACS could overlook these hairlines. (Tbh it took me a while to find the distinct hairlines under the loupe). Does that mean that ANACS grading standard is not as reliable as previous years ago? The grade on the slab is not valid? The coin looks great but I'm sad to see the parallel hairlines under the loupe. The seller is professional and generous as they let me return the coin within a reasonable amount of time. Should I keep this? Again thank you for everyone's contribution.

Yep, new photos show the cleaning. An instant killer for me. I would not come close to buying this coin because of the cleaning, unless it was found in a junk silver bin.

Many straight graded barbers in ANACS holders are called out as cleaned or details. I disagree that the high instances on ANACS coins graded straight are actually details. Unless the shots are taken with good armature coin setups every line or fleck of dust shows menacingly which absolves conisuers from making a wrong call but folks ANACS is not PCI and ANACS will detail a coin appropriately and in an instant.
Were looking at pops of uncirculated barbers with pops in hundreds not thousands at some point the collection community gets that at some point and to some degree many may certainly have been dipped, wiped, treated etc.
Seems no equipoise will ever be found but imo the 3 TPG's know how to call these and by ANA standards.
Those that are quick to "details" a barber rarely show their pickups, mistakes, treasures etc.
His coin would bring 200 + on ebay or GC without a pause likely from some of the harshest critics. MS-61 is defined in many scholarly articles it is a grade and it comes before MS-62