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1880 S Morgan Grading Thanks

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 Posted 08/09/2022  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
No issues TJ...I'm sure the coin is much better "in hand"...pics most assuredly do not allow for accurate grading...especially on eye appeal...I know I've been both ecstatic and disappointed after receiving coins from ebay, bidding on just a set of pics.

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 Posted 08/09/2022  11:16 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
Great looking coin! Excellent luster, and a pretty clean cheek. I'd say it makes MS-65.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I think the hit on the jaw will hold this one to MS-64.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
KopperKen- AU55?

Easily Mint State Coin- MS64+
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 Posted 08/09/2022  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list

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for the obverse pic on first glance I interpreted glare at the top of the head as wear


Understandable. A pancake strike will affect the "frostiness" in the center of the coin and can mimic rub. I had to take a second glance, too.

The rest of the coin looks nice and I agree with the 64/+ crowd. The polishing lines on the reverse probably add to eye appeal in hand, but can detract in photos.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
I say MS64. I know the die polishing lines should not subtract from a grade, but I do find them unappealing.
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 Posted 08/09/2022  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
MS-64, obverse is nice but the reverse is chattered up. A morgan should have a better reverse to make that 65 grade.
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MS-64, obverse is nice but the reverse is chattered up. A morgan should have a better reverse to make that 65 grade.


I'm not seeing any chatter other than die polish lines. is this what you are referring to or the couple little marks on the field by the right wing?
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KopperKen- AU55?


NumFTW...please read my comments after my first post.

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 Posted 08/10/2022  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list
@Kopper Ken dont worry about it.

Is it worth grading these types of coins for future preservation and to try maintain the grade? I see my kids getting these and not knowing anything about coins will put their fingers over them, wear the surfaces down, rub them or turn into jewelry etc. Even the frosty appearances on some coins I could see them rubbing that off.
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Is it worth grading these types of coins for future preservation and to try maintain the grade?


at MS64 its borderline gradable. at MS65 it would be worth slabbing. it your objective is to protect the coin there are many holders that will at substantially less cost. Lucite holders or even air tights will help maintain the coins. if I was planning on passing the coin down I would go this route. imo I dont think it would make 65
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 Posted 08/11/2022  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
I've looked at this one for a little bit...question...what is going on from the outline of her forehead to the tip of her nose? The same outline occures on some of the left hand side leaves on the reverse? How about the mark by her eye...kind of looks like a die chip? This is only visable when zoomed in...
Could you post close-ups of those areas?
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 Posted 08/11/2022  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list
Consistently I see people say it isn't worth slabbing something less than $150 in value, but I disagree. If you like it, plan to keep it, want it protecting, and want the excitement of waiting for and then receiving the grade, then go ahead and get that bad boy slabbed. Also, slabbed coins are so much easier to sell if you ever wish to part ways. I have plenty of coins of value under $100 that I slabbed, for those aforementioned reasons.
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If you like it, plan to keep it, want it protecting, and want the excitement of waiting for and then receiving the grade, then go ahead and get that bad boy slabbed. Also, slabbed coins are so much easier to sell if you ever wish to part ways. I have plenty of coins of value under $100 that I slabbed, for those aforementioned reasons.


I second this, they are all solid reasons to slab.

If you have a few coins in a similar situation, ANACS is running a monthly special of 14 coins for $139+ shipping. I have taken advantage of their specials a couple times and have been more than content with the service. Like any submission to any TPG, one always hoped a couple got the next higher numerical grade, but I paid them for an opinion and they gave me an honest one.

I have kids at home, and someday hope to pass my collection on to them. For now, having some coins slabbed allows me to let them hold and appreciate daddy's favorite coins without daddy out. So to me, that $10-20 slabbing on many coins where I can now let them hold the coins is well worth it to me. Also, if one day the coins go to sale, the ease of sale and the higher $ received will find a way to pay for the overall slabbings. If I have spent $1K over the years on slabbing, I feel that even on these $75-150 coins in bulk, that they will net for more than $1K than they would have if left raw.

As a commodity, an 1880-S isn't an ultra rare coin that legends are written about in the form of newspaper headlines like an 1893-S or and 1804. But if this coins means something to you and makes you happy and is something that allows you to share a moment of joy with the kiddoes, then by all means, you do what you want to do with it.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
I dunno...I think coins are slabbed more so to keep their numismatic value (which at times can be highly manipulated) rather than preserving the actual coin. Coins from the 1800's on up...and even earlier...can be found in pristine condition...didn't have slabs then...just good old coin cabinets and envelopes. I like to hold my coins and lets my kids hold them (waiting for grandkids)...of course teaching them the proper way. Slabs are so sterile!!!

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