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I would say worth a lot more than $5.
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I have a silver version of the first item-maybe yours is silver too?
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.Hallmarked fine silver What prompted you to state this and what exactly does it mean? This brings me to another related question that I have. The coin here lacks any descriptive information around 6 o'clock regarding the silver content. It does, however, have something on the rim previously alluded to and shown with an attachment above in this thread. I want to know if the coin in this thread is the original coin from probably a US mint or if the coin in the following URL is the original one coming from a German mint per its description? This URL should take you to the fourth picture out of 4 to view a close-up showing an alpha numeric designation at 6 o'clock: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthope...l-1887281202One coin could possibly be a fake or it could be that two different varieties exist. Or, was one coin minted in Germany with the longer alpha numeric designation and another issued in the United States with only the crescent shaped symbol and numbers on the rim? Any opinions? It all boils down to my first premise: $150 of proof silver or five bucks of proof pewter? Edited by mdpmedia
08/22/2022 11:48 pm
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It is worth more than $5 USD regardless of composition. Quote:
This token weighs 69.6 g, has a diameter of 60 mm and the thickness of 3.4 mm.
If these measurements are close to accurate then the density is low for silver or an alloy of high silver content. The volume generated by 60 mm diameter and 3.4 mm thickness is nearly 10 cubic centimeters and some relief incuse to the rim would still put it around 9 cubic centimeters. Silver is 10.5 grams per cc so it should weigh close to 100 grams if solid silver. |
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Your calculations are noteworthy for 100% solid silver but I highly doubt that a token would be composed of such a percentage of silver.
I wonder where we could find out the correct composition of this token which would allow us to better determine what we have or not.
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You can also eliminate sterling silver (0.925 fineness) which is a commonly used alloy for tokens, medals and medallions. Eliminate 90% silver as well.
To use pewter for example, at 7.3 grams per cc, you'd be right around your actual weight.
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I have a silver version of the first item What type of markings at 6 o'clock and/or on the rim does your sample have? Also, what are the dimensions and weight so we can compare figures etc.? I'm assuming that your coin's devices on both sides are identical to mine unless you tell us otherwise. A photo shouldn't be all that necessary unless you feel the color is significantly distinct from the one in this thread. |
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The crescent is a German hall mark
1000 signifies fine silver .
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crescent is a German hall mark
1000 signifies fine silver . Well this statement implies that my token is a fake since the calculations for determining pewter presented in this thread seem to indicate that it would be impossible to be silver? Would this be an accurate statement? That was the reason for my request to find out what other allegedly silver examples had with respect to corresponding markings and their locations. |
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The actual thickness, assuming a uniform cylinder with a 6 cm diameter weighing 69.6 grams, would need to be 2.4 mm for the composition's density to match pure silver.
While your measurement of 3.4 mm at the (upturned) rim seems too high, if the relief below the rim is significant (greater than 0.5 mm of each side) then there is still a chance it is silver.
A specific gravity test would settle the issue (in my mind).
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