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Very excited to hear what Wiles has to say. This is a very nice doubled die, but even more it's a really interesting one in the single squeeze hubbing era.
Edited by SamCoin
09/06/2022 8:28 pm
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Update: the final verdict is...
2022-P 1 New Listing to Variety Vista. VDDO-001, 1-O-VI, stage B, MDS.
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Very cool, and interesting to see it confirmed as class VI in the CONECA nomenclature.
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Very nice, congratulations on the attribution.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not often we see a class '6' on a single squeeze die. I was thinking Brian because it was a nickel DDO-listing for Wexlers files. So Brian would be the one to see it. But John might want to see the images also. Just seems like an odd listing for this single process. Thus my wanting them to see this coin.
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Thanks for the congrats. Also, thank you willburton, dearborn, coop and others for helping me distinguish between a DDO / DDR to Die Deterioration or Mechanical Doubling. I have found 18 authentic double die varieties as well as some nice RPMs, die clashes, die cracks and other errors. Now that I know what to look for, it makes it easier to spot. This is a great forum to get pointed in the right direction. |
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I actually just found what I believe is a different class VI DDO on a 2022 visible on the same areas but slightly less dramatic than this one. I'll try to post tomorrow, but very interesting. I wonder what is causing these. Edited by SamCoin
09/08/2022 12:39 am
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Congrats on the listing, that's very cool!
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Quote:
.... I wonder what is causing these. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the Class 6 in the old hubbing method occurred during only one of the hubbings, not necessarily a product of two or more hubbings. Through the years it's been pounded home that the doubling occurs because of two or more hubbings. It's taken me a long time to wrap my head around the possibility that maybe, just maybe, the doubling actually occurs during only one of the hubbings!! I believe that the modern single squeeze method reduced the potential for hub doubling by eliminating many classes of doubling. The single squeeze has not eliminated hub doubling and this coin is a great example of that. Food for thought! Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The direction of the doubling was the one that threw me a curve. The only explanation I can think of is they started and then backed out and restarted (which is not supposed to happen at all) thus creating a doubled die like the ones in the past would create. But knew from first view that is was an example that happened, as I could see it with my eye. Thus the reason I suggested sending this one in to pursue it.
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very cool on your attribution for this coin. - time to start searching it out.
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Now check with Wexler to see if you should send it to Brian? (He might want to see these images to see how this one doesn't follow the rules on the single squeeze dies?) This one is an exception of the rules. (I always think, if it can happen on one die, it can happen on others as well)
Edited by coop
09/21/2022 5:21 pm
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Very cool. CaptJeffWorthFL! Congrats on the listing!  -makecents-
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