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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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@MAKECENTS: Do you want to kill me with this sky hypothesis of re-engraved an S coin after 1965? First for your knowledge: The San Francisco Mint do not have the facility to rework or produce Dies. All are done in Denver from 1965. 1965 till 1969 some was done in Phil but after NO. San Francisco can re-polish but not more. I have no idea from where you take those information's which for me seem to be only some busting false tools to but some prices.
The re-engraving Dies go till 1960. After very few was re-engraved. the cost for this operation was to high comparative to reuse other Dies.
You put a photo of 1960 and COOP of 1953 which could be legitimate or qualify for re-engraved Dies, and even there is very disputable legitims.
I thing we imagine to much instead to focus of the reality.
Please read my previous post here to understand what is involve in an re-engraving. the Mint will not pay for this when the cost of a penny production is 1.79 cents
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Valued Member
 Hong Kong
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Thanks guys for your opinions!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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-makecents-
Edited by -makecents- 09/17/2022 08:02 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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chgk1628, maybe this will help you see. 
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Edited by -makecents- 09/17/2022 08:44 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Comparing the die states, shows that this die that struck this coin, was polished, probably to remove a clash mark, and weakened the bow tie. That is what you are seeing on your coin.
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Valued Member
 Hong Kong
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In my opinion I think my example's bowtie outline structure ratio was more closer to the ODV-028 than makecents'.
Edited by chgk1628 09/17/2022 11:26 am
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Valued Member
 Hong Kong
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After directly compare with VV's ODV-027,I found Makecents-ODV-028 outline structure ratio looks almost the same as VV's ODV-027.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Quote: Comparing the die states, shows that this die that struck this coin, was polished, probably to remove a clash mark, and weakened the bow tie. That is what you are seeing on your coin. coop, I'm assuming you are referring to the OP's coin, if so, I agree, completely. Mine is definitely a re-engraved coin, even with my extreme noviceness, I see this. 
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Edited by -makecents- 09/17/2022 7:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I certainly have to say Makescents matches VV ODV-028 pretty well, even to these old peepers. The Re-engraving is easy to see.
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Pillar of the Community
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Valued Member
 Hong Kong
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Here were two different ODV of the1971 LMC that I found in my coin bank. In my view the Denver's variety was VV's ODV-028 and the Phil's one was ODV-027. Am I right?  
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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For every body here: I will put the table of the MM's
Mint Branch Mint Mark Years Mark Used Carson City (NV) CC 1870-1893 Charlotte (NC) C 1838-1861 Dahlonega (GA) D 1838-1861 Denver (CO) D 1906-Present New Orleans (LA) O 1838-1861, 1879-1909 Philadelphia (PA) P 1942-45, 1979-Present San Francisco (CA) S 1854-1955, 1968-Present West Point (NY) W 1984-Present
Hope you will remember forever.
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Valued Member
 Hong Kong
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Thanks for your information! Silvio.
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Valued Member
United States
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I just logged on and glad I clicked on this post learned so much on polishing and re~engraving which I never really knew to look for, I am very thankful to be getting so much coin knowledge from you coin experts even if not all agree on topic attribution are variety just reading the discussion of the topic you can learn many other things that are just as important almost like 2 lawyers opening statement lol
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I want to be be clear here: Was not re-engraved Die for this year, just re-punches working Dies. Please folks, we have to stop compare years with other years. VV it is a good start to look, but them show just they see not more, this do not mean could not be others things.
this coin it is a clear re-punch Die. Some will accept , others not. By Mint docs. was re-punched Dies in order to finish the production. That's is that' all.
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