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1859 O Seated Liberty's. Grade Worthy

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 Posted 10/03/2022  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry Picker to your friends list
Rusty staples are never a good sign.
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 Posted 10/03/2022  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
Both coins look like they came from the SS Republic. If they can be proved to be off of the shipwreck, then it would be worth sending to NGC to get the label with SS Republic. If it cannot be proved, then they are just severely damaged coins. Personal opinion, keep them raw as-is.

It looks like those are some old 2x2's, the staples are beginning to rust. The coins have been in there for a long time, probably since the shipwreck was discovered.
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 Posted 10/03/2022  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieselCountry to your friends list
Yes they are definitely In old 2x2. I saw them and figured why not they was a beauty to me. But no telling how long they was at the place I seen them today. He has other stuff so I'll be going back for sure
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 Posted 10/03/2022  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Not sure at this point how these could be certified as from the Republic find.
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 Posted 10/03/2022  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Not worth grading due to damage. I would liberate them from the 2x2 holders at least. The damage may also be due to a poorly cast fake, especially since it seems to be common on both of them. The mint marks don't look correct. I don't like them.
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 Posted 10/03/2022  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
They are oddly similar but far from identical
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 Posted 10/03/2022  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieselCountry to your friends list
Well if they are counterfeit then they been in staples for a long time to rust,. What I paid for them just got get one shipwreck tested would be worth it. And still come out at a inexpensive gamble. In my opinion
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 Posted 10/04/2022  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list
Not grade worthy.
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 Posted 10/04/2022  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
they do look like the salvaged SS Republic coins. if they pan out to be legit they still have decent value
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 Posted 10/04/2022  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieselCountry to your friends list
I'm gonna send one off and see what they say. If it is or isn't. Will update once I know
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 Posted 10/04/2022  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
I'm leaning towards both coins being genuine, with AU detail. However, they look both damaged and corroded. They have also been cleaned, probably in an attempt to simulate original luster. Most experienced collectors avoid coins like these. The problems will drastically reduce the potential value.
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 Posted 10/04/2022  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DieselCountry to your friends list
I do understand and agree. It's my thoughts are similar. My main thought is whatever happens to these coins was years decades ago. If someone knowledge had them then they wouldn't be clean. If a counterfeiter made them with this quality this many years ago and sealed them up, or the unknowledgeable person, something was done long ago that the cardboard stained, staples rust. It's killing ne
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 Posted 10/05/2022  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
AU details, sea salvaged.
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 Posted 10/06/2022  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add luvmyCAM to your friends list
my first reaction somethings not right. On closer examination...somethings not right with these. Take them to a pawnshop and have them placed on a sigmapro device, if you can't get access use a rare earth magnet slide, if not that then take a known 90% silver half lay it flat next to these and put an ice cube on all 3. If the icecubes on your two don't go haywire and dance around like the ice cube on a known 90% half then their fake. Ice is not going to make these any worse than they are. I hope I'm wrong and they are both authentic damaged coins.
My LCS has "the box" and in that box is about 20 various counterfeits that fooled him and fooled me, the crooks are getting specialized at counterfeiting his examples were a slap in the face for me. Mix in 3 or 4 with 30-40 other Morgans and Seated Liberty Halfs their easy to miss.
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Just found this guy today :)
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