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What Grade Morgans And ? Worth Cost Of Grading

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 Posted 11/18/2022  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Do you know how these coins were stored--album with one side only visible, both sides visible? Other?
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 Posted 11/18/2022  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
Unless you feel strongly that they all could get an MS-65 grade, forget about slabbing.

(As an aside, my personal opinion is that the obverse toning is disturbing.)
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 Posted 11/18/2022  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingwater to your friends list
Looks like the obverses were exposed to the elements but reverses protected. This can happed with coins used in wall displays, belt buckles, lockets, poorly stored, etc. and then removed. I would not grade them. I have a 1/10 oz silver libertad I took out of a locket that looks very dark on exposed side, nice on protected reverse side.
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 Posted 11/18/2022  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
It would cost you what these are worth to get graded.
Spend the grading fees on more coins .
What you have pictured would retail for about 130 to 150 USD
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 Posted 11/18/2022  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
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 Posted 11/18/2022  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bagvette to your friends list
Thanks to all who have responded. I have 15 of these colored coins.
Coins were in these small boxes with felt like lining.
If the coins were cleaned wouldn't that remove the color?
Unless they were cleaned then later toned?



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 Posted 11/18/2022  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bagvette to your friends list
Comments have sparked my curiosity. The heads are colored but I'm not sure that is toning. Tail sides are mostly without corrosion because the coins were face up in the boxes. I wonder if mold could cause that coloration?
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 Posted 11/19/2022  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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If the coins were cleaned wouldn't that remove the color?
Unless they were cleaned then later toned?


to answer your question. cleaning a coin would most likely remove the toning. in your case every one of these coins was cleaned and probably not rinsed properly. it removed all the original surfaces as can be seen by the dullness of all the reverses. they all have the same look. they were most likely stored obverse up and retoned however that toning is not natural
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 Posted 11/19/2022  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bagvette to your friends list
Thank you!
This is good info.
These coins won't be sold, just passed down, so these comments are quite valuable. So my heirs won't have to figure this out.
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 Posted 11/19/2022  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
These coins don't look cleaned, the lighting doesn't make the luster flashy.
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 Posted 11/19/2022  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
Cool experiment since these coins won't be sold.
Put them back in the box...only this time with heads side (obverse) down and the tails side (reverse) up and check them out in a couple of years and see if they start to tone and report back to us...
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 Posted 11/20/2022  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
I am not seeing any signs of a cleaning that left hairlines scratches on your coins. The coins may have been over dipped in a acid before putting them in the case that could have caused the dullness look on the reverse, but it could also be your photos not picking up the luster because the photo of the 1921 sitting in the case is showing MS type luster.

Here is my take on what happened. The coins were put into the case without any toning with the white/silver MS look on both sides. The darker felt that the coins sit on does not have any sulfur in the material, so no toning on the reverse. The sulfur is in the top cloth white lining that caused the toning, and that is why the obverse toned.
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 Posted 11/21/2022  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
in any case how it occurred, the coins would not grade straight. they were over dipped.

on top of that the 78S has some pretty good scratches on the chin and left field. and the 84(O) has a nice big fingerprint in front of the neck.
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 Posted 11/21/2022  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bagvette to your friends list
i have added some pics if that could help clarify. several folks believe they have been cleaned, or dipped, with unnatural toning. I have 15 in all. they were stored in these metal cases with upper cloth-type lining with gold lettering United States Mint Silver Dollar Collection. reverses are similar to previous posts.

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