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Which One Would You Keep For Your Collection - Picking From 2 1795 S-76B Liberty Cap Large Cents

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 Posted 12/10/2022  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burfle23 to your friends list
Let me know when the 2nd one is for sale!
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 Posted 12/11/2022  02:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list

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For me, the pedigree and smooth surfaces doesn't outweigh the significantly more remnant detail of the first coin. I'd save #1 until you are ready to write a check for a better example.


I would rather have a detailed corroded coin than a slick disk with a pedigree. The pedigree could bring more value, so I would take advantage of that and sell the second example.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list

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Like any ancient coin, both of these coins are individuals, each with their own characteristics.
If they were already in my collection, I would keep them both.


I love the denticle lines on the second coin, they bring it character. If I was buying one or the other, for the same amount of money, I'll take the first, but if I already had both I'd keep both unless I urgently needed money.

What kind of money are we talking about, anyway? $100? $500? $20? I don't have a Liberty Cap in my collection but I'm hoping I could get one some day - but if it's more of a $500+ level it might stay above my budget for a long time.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
I would keep the first example for now. Corroded yes but the remaining detail wins me over vs the slick coin with pedigree.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Nickelsearcher took the words out of my mouth.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  07:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wallyb to your friends list
Agree with most, the first coin if I had to choose. The pedigree for the 2nd, while interesting, does nothing to sell me on the coin itself. First coin looks much nicer overall, IMO.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list

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For me, the pedigree and smooth surfaces doesn't outweigh the significantly more remnant detail of the first coin. I'd save #1 until you are ready to write a check for a better example.


Agree with Spence and others.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list

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which coin do you like better and why?

All good reasons stated thus far.
I guess for my collection...if I were buying...it would be # 1 just because of the details.
Let us know which one you choose to keep and why...would like to hear your reasoning?
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 Posted 12/11/2022  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
All in all, and if one of them had to go, I would keep coin 1.

Coin 2 is just too far gone, for me, personally.


This post reminds me, an S-76b was one of the first (or the first) Large Cent I ever bought for my collection back in 198h . I still have it and like it very much.

If I may show it, here it is:




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 Posted 12/11/2022  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marckdaniels to your friends list
If I dont have it, would.keep
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 Posted 12/11/2022  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I would sell #1 and keep #2. If a better one comes along I would upgrade it then.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimNH to your friends list
Classic tradeoff between amount of detail remaining vs 'problems'. Here I like coin 2 better, but just barely. It's got just enough detail to hang in there as a rep for the type, it might even straight grade (IMHO), but really overall it's a 'coin flip', if you will :)
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 Posted 12/11/2022  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list
thanks everyone. I like reading your thoughts here.

i should have said a bit about my collecting goals in the opening post. I am working on collecting all of the die varieties of large cent from 1793 - 1839 (thats ~600 coins). I'm about 2/3 of the way done with the sheldons (average grade eac vg) and am missing 9 coins for the middle dates (average grade eac vf). my current focus is to pick up the rare varieties in any grade.

because I'm focusing on the rarities I'm not planning on upgrading common coins like the 76b for a while. you can pick up a really nice vf for under $2k at most major coin shows. at this time I would rather spend that money on something like a terrible S-272 or S-264. I dont have infinite money so there will always be budget concerns for this project.

@sel - I hadnt really considered keeping both of them. I am going to think about that. I do have a small errors and dies states subsection that isn't part of the main collection.

@burfie23 - will do! I may end up keeping it. I'm not sure. ill let you know.

@january1may - the corroded coin cost $80 something like 20 years ago. I paid ~$225 for the second coin earlier this month. I'm not sure which one would be more valuable. I dont think they sell to the same audience. coin 1 would be mostly type set demand. coin 2 has a lot of potential to be loved by an advanced early copper collector.

@germanicvs - thats an excellent example! thats probably about the range I would shoot for it I were upgrading. very attractive. I'm always happy to see your beautiful coppers!

i stumbled onto this problem by accident. I had no intention of keeping the second coin when I bought it. it was being auctioned and I thought it would make a nice addition to my resale inventory. I got it in hand and its very nearly a choice coin despite its low grade. it showed up in an ancient envelope with a blacked out typewriter price of $17.50 on it. I did some learning and now its got a cool story to go with its nice surfaces and that minor off center error.

for those unaware Lapp was the founder of Pennywise which is the club journal for the Early American Copper Club. its the best publication in numismatics as far as I'm concerned. he was member #33. hes is a big part of why I have access to that coin club and all of the friends I have made through that club. having the coin be owned by the guy who attended to General Patton on his death bed makes the world seem so small to me. history is nearby and accessible. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff.

im not sure which coin ill keep.

i dont like the first coin. it has more detail than any of my other 1795s. I have always known that it would get upgraded eventually. this variety is so common that it never ends up being a high enough priority for me to pull the trigger on an upgrade. there is always something I want more.

i like the second coin. its just soooooooo worn. it feels wrong to downgrade that far. it seems like a lot of you feel the same way.

thanks for your thoughts everyone. I appreciate it. I'm still not sure what I will do here but thats ok. having too many 1795 cents is a good problem to have.

funny thing - my S-76a (pretty scarce at R-5, same obverse and reverse as 76b but with a lettered edge instead of a plain edge) is quite a bit better than either of these. its a relatively problem free good thats is also a flip-over double-strike. here is that coin:

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 Posted 12/11/2022  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burfle23 to your friends list
Thought I would post mine as well!


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 Posted 12/11/2022  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I don't have any
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Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955
Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves.
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