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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Another tip, doesn't always work but something in your "wall of defense", is check the barcode with a free QR reader. In the above examples, even the crappy HA image is readable, the fake is not, and you can clearly see just by looking that the fake barcode doesn't match.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If a PCGS coin is reholdered will the cert number change or be the same?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Good point kbbpll; I actually use one and many of the best counterfeit holders scan; the one above did not...  jimbucks, yes, new cert number; I report these on PCGS' CU page and they have stated that as they deactivate certs. 
Edited by burfle23 12/19/2022 07:03 am
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Edited by burfle23 12/20/2022 7:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4471 Posts |
The ebay listing above has the same reverse CC die that has been around for over 5 years that comes out of China with the scratch on the eagle's breast and bump above the D in dollar.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
517 Posts |
Thank you Slider23; I saw your link to that discussion and matched these "latest" ones to those as you stated.  The mintmark also doesn't look to match the known 1881-CC Vams either...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
517 Posts |
Previous listing was removed; I spend a little time each day trying to weed these out!
Edited by burfle23 12/22/2022 10:50 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't get it. What is the point of showing a (fake) slabbed coin when all you're selling is the money clip? I guess if a buyer is dumb enough to think a) it's real and b) it grades MS64 just because there's a picture of a slabbed coin, then they get what they deserve.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The counterfeit seller's business plan could use a little improvement. Why would any legit seller take a $800 coin and crack it out, then, mount the coin to a money clip and sell at $149? 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
517 Posts |
Well, with all of the publicity of the bad "Morgan" Morgan '81-CC's they are buying at $40 a pop he has decided to try to get more by selling them attached to money clips- didn't say this one was the sharpest tool out there! I asked if he had any other dates and he has bad 1883-CC's as well; matched his to another bad one with the same reverse as the '81-CC's and same bad holder but no "Morgan" on the label of this one...   
Edited by burfle23 12/26/2022 4:09 pm
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 United States
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Quote: Well, a new approach to selling these- break them out of the bad holders and offer them for $150 a pop as a money clip... 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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One of the reasons why none of my 1500 or so coins are slabbed, despite nearly 50 years of collecting. Other reasons have to do with display and storage.
As an aside, if a slabbed coin is suspected as being fake, it is necessary to crack the slab to investigate the coin.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I contacted the seller and included an image of the genuine one; he has since ended the auction...
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